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Not sure how the quote is sexist..man in this context = mankind, and No, I don't regard that as sexist.
by nanijoe 14y ago
Not sure how the quote is sexist..man in this context = mankind, and No, I don't regard that as sexist.
- RyanMcGreal 14y agoMaybe you could ask a woman what she thinks about a mass noun for humanity that excludes half of the humans.
- sandfox 14y ago<troll-feed> I asked, In the small sample I questioned, not a single f* was given. Now troll off somewhere else, or alternatively actually make a useful contribution to increasing opportunities and interest for women in tech. </troll-feed>
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- nanijoe 14y agoYou know..I just did, and she does not give a shit. She cares a heck of a lot more that her male colleagues earn more than she does.And that being of child bearing age somehow counts as a strike against her at her job. Maybe YOU should try talking to an actual woman and asking her what she cares about.
- RyanMcGreal 14y agoHow can we fix the big stuff - discrimination and pay disparities - if we can't even fix the small stuff like choosing to use non-sexist language?
- joshka 14y agoFocussing on the stuff which is broken, rather than the stuff which is not is a good start.
- fallenhitokiri 14y agoTo quote my significant other: "who the f* actually cares about this!?" Of course you will find women who support your point - as you will find people who support $something, no matter what it is. The fine line between caring and taking care of a problem and moving every topic off topic, justifying it with something small, unimportant, knowingly wrong interpreted and ripped out of context is the key to change something without creating a mass of people who are just sick of a topic because of the mentioned behavior.
- RyanMcGreal 14y agoIf it's small and unimportant, why not do the right thing and use a non-sexist term instead of a sexist term? Why are we defending the use of a masculine mass noun to refer to all humans when it confers no advantage over an equivalent non-sexist term while adding, however incrementally, to the totality of messages that women are not welcome in tech?
- quesera 14y ago> If it's small and unimportant, why not do the right thing and use a non-sexist term instead of a sexist term? Because we don't agree that it is a sexist term at all, and altering common usage to suit the sensibilities of a tiny group of people[1] is a) pandering, which is discriminatory, and b) impossible. > Why are we defending the use of a masculine noun to refer.. Well that's just it. It isn't a masculine noun. It's gender neutral. It takes no stance on the debate whatsoever. Its resemblance to a masculine noun is interesting but not relevant. If the author had meant it in a gender specific way, he would have committed a grammatical error. Right bark, wrong tree, I think. You're just making easy noise. If you are passionate about the underlying issue which you've conflated here, I hope you also spend energy in more fruitful efforts. [1] by which I mean the tiny group of people offended on behalf of the larger 51% of the population, the vast majority of which doesn't even recognize this conversation as linguistically, much less socially, interesting.