I don't see why this should be. It sounds a bit irrational. From my perspective, Java is an iffy language and Java programs are often nightmarish to read. But t

I don't see why this should be. It sounds a bit irrational. From my perspective, Java is an iffy language and Java programs are often nightmarish to read. But the JVM? I see no reason why my feelings about Java and its culture should color my opinion of the JVM. The JVM is a technical marvel. It runs Ruby faster than Ruby with far less effort. It supports a whole host of very different languages, many of them quite good. And it's just blazing fast (modulo startup speed). There are other valid choices, of course, and the JVM is obviously not the optimal choice for every project, but I think it's fallacious to rag on the JVM just because its most popular language isn't to your taste. In short: Java bad. JVM very good.