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To me, the "Stop & Frisk" practice taking place in NY represents a compromise between enforcing Fourth Amendment rights and reduce gang violence. I have no doub
by jwess 14y ago
To me, the "Stop & Frisk" practice taking place in NY represents a compromise between enforcing Fourth Amendment rights and reduce gang violence. I have no doubts that “Stop & Frisk” violates the Fourth Amendment and unfairly targets minorities for the potential embarrassment, harassment, intimidation, etc. of an unwarranted search, but I also believe that it reduces gang-related homicides, which are heavily skewed towards minority victims.
It's worth noting that in briefly detaining someone without probable cause, the NYPD is relying on a supreme court ruling from 1968 [0], but only recently have they fully utilized these rights.
NYC requires a permit for carrying a handgun, and part of the permit process is to pass a background check. I can’t think of any good reasons why someone would be carrying an unlicensed handgun in NYC, unless they’re a gang-member.
I support the "Stop & Frisk" practice for finding concealed weapons on individuals that shouldn't have them, for all other cases (drugs, etc.) it is not in society's best interest.
[0] http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0392_0001_ZS.html http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0392...
- guelo 14y agoLet me guess, there's zero chance that the Stop & Frisk policy will result in you or anyone you know getting arbitrarily harassed by cops? You want it to happen to them but not to you.
- tptacek 14y ago(a) I am baffled by what you thought this comment could have accomplished, and (b) you clearly didn't read it all the way through, because he doesn't want it to happen to anyone, nor does he support the way it's actually being executed on the ground in NYC.
- guelo 14y agoHe said he supports some version of Stop & Frisk. I don't want to get into another semantics argument with you.
- rayiner 14y agoThere doesn't have to be a "compromise." The 4th amendment isn't a hard-and-fast rule. That's the whole reason for the "unreasonable" wiggle-word in the text. It should be possible to create rules that allow policing to stop gang violence and also comply with the requirements of the 4th amendment.
- pavel_lishin 14y ago> I support the "Stop & Frisk" practice for finding concealed weapons on individuals that shouldn't have them, for all other cases (drugs, etc.) it is not in society's best interest. So, the practice is OK if in hindsight it turns out that the person being frisked had a gun, but is BAD if it turns out they didn't?