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It's America's rights to protect it's land, but it's not America's right to be paranoid about Islam forever. I regret that I have but 8 karma points to give.
by mkn 18y ago
It's America's rights to protect it's land, but it's not America's right to be paranoid about Islam forever.
I regret that I have but 8 karma points to give.
Islam, like all religious faiths, is predicated on the notion that rational thought is to be subjugated to some holy book or higher power. As such, Islam, and all other faiths (including even every moderate branch of mainstream religions in the U.S.) are susceptible to radicalization and militarization. While abortion clinic bombers are currently a much smaller problem than Muslim suicide bombers on a pure numbers basis, the potential is still there.
That said, Islam has proven itself to be exceedingly prone to militarization. The subordination of the intellect is an explicit tenet of even the name of the religion. The intellects of Muslims are, by definition, enslaved to the Koran and, by common practice throughout the world, enslaved to two-bit Mullahs and the insipid fatwas they issue. Western secular civilization, by definition, has not only the right but the obligation to be paranoid about Islam for as long as it take Islam to prove itself benign.
The only reason the western secular civilization need not immediately take remedial action against other, more moderate, strains of religious belief is that, currently, their capacity for sheer mindless barbaric murderousness has been rendered latent by the secularizing force of modern technology and society. Specifically, for example, there is no danger that printing an image of the Christian god will result in mobs of anti-intellectual zealots rioting in the streets, overturning and burning vehicles while chanting, "Death to America!" There is that danger with Islam.
It is only radical and misguided political correctness to say that Islam is not the enemy of the west, when Islam itself is explicitly opposed to such shining examples of western rationality and moral values as: 1) The seeking of equality of opportunity for women, 2) The seeking of knowledge via the scientific method, even if (and especially if) it leads to the overthrow of current understanding or doctrine, 3) Due process and commensurate punishment for individuals accused and found guilty, respectively, of crimes, 4) The separation of religious entities from the government, and so on.
Any sect that explicitly and in its founding texts is opposed to virtues such as the ones listed above is not only an enemy of the West, but an enemy of the scientific method that has brought so much benefit to mankind and even an enemy of every great thinker since the Enlightenment. I am not ashamed of my hatred for Islam, nor of my dislike for other organized religions. We can thank Islam for shepherding rationalism through the Christian Dark Ages but, currently, its only other gift to mankind is showing us explicitly how severe the latent danger of the religious mind really is.
- thepanister 18y agohmmmmmmmmmmmmm Although you admitted that you are an Islam hater, I really find it useless to make a debate with you. Do you know why? Because most of the information you listed above is wrong! You have made the same mistake that many others do everyday... You judge on Islam just because of less than 0.000000001% of Muslims have declared the war against America. Do you think that Islam agrees on bombs? If there is a religion that asks you to kill others, then it's not worth believing in it! I am sure that when you will have the correct information about Islam, and about Muslims too, your point of view will be totally changed! How many bombers are out there? Million bombers? Although million bombers is not realistic number, but even if it's truth, then there are more than 1.5 Billions muslims in the world! Devide 1 million/1.5 billion and then * 100 , and look at the percentage!
- rms 18y agoHis misconception is not believing that most Muslims are violent, but that most Muslims take their religion as seriously as the intellectual framework commands. Islam may have not had a reformation into conservative and non-conservative sects, but the great majority of Muslims do not feel an image of Muhammad is worth a riot. Having said that, the proportion of orthodox, Koranic literalists to more liberal Muslims does seem to be significantly higher than the proportion of Christian biblical literalists to more liberal Christians I think this is the point mkn was trying to make, even if using that to justify hatred makes him look kind of dumb.
- thepanister 18y agobut the great majority of Muslims do not feel an image of Muhammad is worth a riot. In fact the great majority of Muslims feel an image of Muhammed is worth a riot, and even a war! Because Muhammed is not a normal person... he is a prophet. And yeah... most Muslims don't really take their religion as seriously the intellectual framework commands... although we suppose to take Islam as a framework for our lives!