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Sadly, only Nexus devices are actually good. And I mean really good. I absolutely love my Nexus 4.

by lucian1900 14y ago

w1ntermute 14y ago
Have you used the Galaxy S3? You can root/unlock it and install CM. I'd say that's better than a Nexus 4, especially if you have LTE.
- ajross 14y ago
  You seem not to have read the linked article, which is about one of the CM developers dumping work on one of the GS3 (there are a bunch of different phones labeled with the same name) devices because of unsolvable problems and poor support from Samsung. Seriously: Buy. A. Nexus. Phone. Almost everything else is going to bite you.
  - w1ntermute 14y ago
    Sure, there are issues with certain GS3 models. That doesn't mean that, as a consumer, you can't get one that works with CM. Plus, I have no special loyalty to Samsung or the Galaxy brand. It could be an LG, or HTC, or Sony, for all I care. And getting a Nexus isn't an option for me, not anymore. I have a Galaxy Nexus on Verizon (a great phone) at the moment, and none of the other carriers have as good coverage where I live. They definitely don't have 4G, which Verizon does. Plus, I have grandfathered unlimited data, which I'm never giving up. I'd love to get another Nexus, but that's not an option for me. After the fiasco with the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, I don't see Google releasing another Verizon Nexus, not for a long time. So I'll probably buy a phone that's 6-8 months old, has been unlocked/rooted, is quite popular, and was a premium model when it was released. Then I'll install CM on it and go on my merry way.
  - evandena 14y ago
    Unless you're on Verizon (unlimted LTE) and can't get Tmo, or won't deal with greater of all evils (ATT). Plus most of CM gripes with the S3 are related to Exynos SoC and not the Qualcomm SoC.
    - ajross 14y ago
      Actually I have a not-quite-a-nexus-anymore "Verizon Galaxy Nexus" (toro) in my pocket, so I feel your pain. If anything this supports my point, doesn't it? I tried to follow the "Just Buy A Nexus" advice and still got burned because Verizon/Google couldn't support the device on AOSP. Though to be fair, the CM 10.1 builds on toro work just fine. I sweat a little at every update though.
  - calciphus 14y ago
    Interestingly, I have a GS3 as well and have no problems with the things the developer is mentioning here. The article is 3 months old. In that time, CM10 hit stable release for all US carriers (and international, IIRC) and is honestly rock-solid. All those "unsolvable" issues were solved. I'd recommend it without hesitation to every GS3 owner. 10.1 is buggy/crash-prone, admittedly, but the team's only been working on it for a few weeks. Bluetooth and Wifi tethering work solidly, some of the newer Google Apps (like Gallery and Photosphere) are a little hacky. Touch to focus works great. Every issue Codeworkx cites as his frustrations with the S3 have been resolved by the great folks at the CM/TeamHacksung. The article is a non-issue.
    - ajross 14y ago
      I'm willing to bet that you have a US market "GS3". That's a Qualcom Snapdragon S4 phone, not Exynos (seriously: it's an entirely different set of electronics in the same box). It works much better largely because it shares the same SoC as the Nexus 4. And yet, in comparison with it's cousin the N4, it's not nearly as well supported or trouble free. Buy. A. Nexus. Phone.
      - UnFleshedOne 14y ago
        Nexus 4 has one major flaw -- you can't tell people to buy a phone that is not on the market. :) I can wait until my n900 breaks down (which won't happen any time soon, that thing is built like a rock), but N4 would be so much better if it was, you know, there.
- joenathan 14y ago
  There are trade offs - the N4 has a better price, CPU, GPU, resolution and more RAM, Whereas the S3 has a better screen and LTE. I have an N4 and I am very happy with it, the extra RAM and the quadcore processor make a big difference.
  - gareim 14y ago
    They have the same amount of RAM if you're comparing the American S3 and I'm assuming you are since you're implying the model of S3 in your mind is dual core (American S3 is dual core). Also, the N4 had an extra 48 lines of pixels that are used for the navigation bar, so effective screen real estate is the same on both devices.
dolphenstein 14y ago
Someone actually managed to get one? Wow!

Sadly, only Nexus devices are actually good. And I mean really good. I absolutely love my Nexus 4.

Have you used the Galaxy S3? You can root/unlock it and install CM. I'd say that's better than a Nexus 4, especially if you have LTE.

ajross 14y ago
You seem not to have read the linked article, which is about one of the CM developers dumping work on one of the GS3 (there are a bunch of different phones labeled with the same name) devices because of unsolvable problems and poor support from Samsung. Seriously: Buy. A. Nexus. Phone. Almost everything else is going to bite you.
- w1ntermute 14y ago
  Sure, there are issues with certain GS3 models. That doesn't mean that, as a consumer, you can't get one that works with CM. Plus, I have no special loyalty to Samsung or the Galaxy brand. It could be an LG, or HTC, or Sony, for all I care. And getting a Nexus isn't an option for me, not anymore. I have a Galaxy Nexus on Verizon (a great phone) at the moment, and none of the other carriers have as good coverage where I live. They definitely don't have 4G, which Verizon does. Plus, I have grandfathered unlimited data, which I'm never giving up. I'd love to get another Nexus, but that's not an option for me. After the fiasco with the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, I don't see Google releasing another Verizon Nexus, not for a long time. So I'll probably buy a phone that's 6-8 months old, has been unlocked/rooted, is quite popular, and was a premium model when it was released. Then I'll install CM on it and go on my merry way.
- evandena 14y ago
  Unless you're on Verizon (unlimted LTE) and can't get Tmo, or won't deal with greater of all evils (ATT). Plus most of CM gripes with the S3 are related to Exynos SoC and not the Qualcomm SoC.
  - ajross 14y ago
    Actually I have a not-quite-a-nexus-anymore "Verizon Galaxy Nexus" (toro) in my pocket, so I feel your pain. If anything this supports my point, doesn't it? I tried to follow the "Just Buy A Nexus" advice and still got burned because Verizon/Google couldn't support the device on AOSP. Though to be fair, the CM 10.1 builds on toro work just fine. I sweat a little at every update though.
- calciphus 14y ago
  Interestingly, I have a GS3 as well and have no problems with the things the developer is mentioning here. The article is 3 months old. In that time, CM10 hit stable release for all US carriers (and international, IIRC) and is honestly rock-solid. All those "unsolvable" issues were solved. I'd recommend it without hesitation to every GS3 owner. 10.1 is buggy/crash-prone, admittedly, but the team's only been working on it for a few weeks. Bluetooth and Wifi tethering work solidly, some of the newer Google Apps (like Gallery and Photosphere) are a little hacky. Touch to focus works great. Every issue Codeworkx cites as his frustrations with the S3 have been resolved by the great folks at the CM/TeamHacksung. The article is a non-issue.
  - ajross 14y ago
    I'm willing to bet that you have a US market "GS3". That's a Qualcom Snapdragon S4 phone, not Exynos (seriously: it's an entirely different set of electronics in the same box). It works much better largely because it shares the same SoC as the Nexus 4. And yet, in comparison with it's cousin the N4, it's not nearly as well supported or trouble free. Buy. A. Nexus. Phone.
    - UnFleshedOne 14y ago
      Nexus 4 has one major flaw -- you can't tell people to buy a phone that is not on the market. :) I can wait until my n900 breaks down (which won't happen any time soon, that thing is built like a rock), but N4 would be so much better if it was, you know, there.
joenathan 14y ago
There are trade offs - the N4 has a better price, CPU, GPU, resolution and more RAM, Whereas the S3 has a better screen and LTE. I have an N4 and I am very happy with it, the extra RAM and the quadcore processor make a big difference.
- gareim 14y ago
  They have the same amount of RAM if you're comparing the American S3 and I'm assuming you are since you're implying the model of S3 in your mind is dual core (American S3 is dual core). Also, the N4 had an extra 48 lines of pixels that are used for the navigation bar, so effective screen real estate is the same on both devices.

dolphenstein 14y ago

Someone actually managed to get one? Wow!