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Actually- we address some of that! So we don't quite provide a Zotero data utopia (yet...), but * each paper page has PDF links and BibTeX * we extract citati

Actually- we address some of that! So we don't quite provide a Zotero data utopia (yet...), but * each paper page has PDF links and BibTeX * we extract citation data from PDFs so you can browse the citation graph immediately. We're working on stats right now, but everything we extract is publicly inspectable. * we're all about open access- in fact, we are only open access, and will do our best to contribute back to bettering academic communication. * trust me, we have the balls. Still working on the rest.

kanzure 14y ago
> we extract citation data from PDFs so you can browse the > citation graph immediately Can you just.. give us the citation data instead? How is this better than ISI and other vendors? Edit: removed some other comments. That's my most important question.
- mhluongo 14y ago
  I don't mean to be obtuse, but what would that look like? We've been focused on providing a better browsing experience with these citations, but if there's a demand for them in a different format I don't see why we wouldn't provide it.
  - kanzure 14y ago
    I imagine it would look like raw data, probably json. Then you can do the mashups play, etc. I think Elsevier has tried some of that to some success (look at their API docs). Mendeley is also trying this approach and has done fairly well so far.
    - mhluongo 14y ago
      Oh! certainly! We're a small startup, and don't quite have the manpower for an API yet- but if we keep moving, we'll get there. I really like what Mendeley has done so far. I've chatted a bit with them about integrating with their API, ourselves- it's a rich data source, and I think we could do some great things.
jrochkind1 14y ago
Yeah? Is there a freely available api for your service, which exposes PDF links among other things? If so, I and many other university library developers would be VERY interested in your service. If you'd like to get university library software engineer attention on your service (and especially if you have a freely avail API, please let us know), I'd suggest you email some info to the code4lib listserv: http://www.lsoft.com/scripts/wl.exe?SL1=CODE4LIB&H=LISTSERV.ND.EDU http://www.lsoft.com/scripts/wl.exe?SL1=CODE4LIB&H=LISTS...
- kanzure 14y ago
  > freely available api for your service, which exposes PDF links I configured an API like this just the other day (zotero's translation-server). I wanted an IRC bot to fetch pdfs. I call him paperbot. The big problem was figuring out how to extract the right links and metadata from each publisher. But the server seems to work.
- mhluongo 14y ago
  We don't have an API yet, but it's definitely in the works. Thanks for the listserv link- we're relatively plugged in to the library community but it's tough to keep up!

kanzure 14y ago

> we extract citation data from PDFs so you can browse the > citation graph immediately Can you just.. give us the citation data instead? How is this better than ISI and other vendors? Edit: removed some other comments. That's my most important question.

mhluongo 14y ago
I don't mean to be obtuse, but what would that look like? We've been focused on providing a better browsing experience with these citations, but if there's a demand for them in a different format I don't see why we wouldn't provide it.
- kanzure 14y ago
  I imagine it would look like raw data, probably json. Then you can do the mashups play, etc. I think Elsevier has tried some of that to some success (look at their API docs). Mendeley is also trying this approach and has done fairly well so far.
  - mhluongo 14y ago
    Oh! certainly! We're a small startup, and don't quite have the manpower for an API yet- but if we keep moving, we'll get there. I really like what Mendeley has done so far. I've chatted a bit with them about integrating with their API, ourselves- it's a rich data source, and I think we could do some great things.

jrochkind1 14y ago

Yeah? Is there a freely available api for your service, which exposes PDF links among other things? If so, I and many other university library developers would be VERY interested in your service. If you'd like to get university library software engineer attention on your service (and especially if you have a freely avail API, please let us know), I'd suggest you email some info to the code4lib listserv: http://www.lsoft.com/scripts/wl.exe?SL1=CODE4LIB&H=LISTSERV.ND.EDU http://www.lsoft.com/scripts/wl.exe?SL1=CODE4LIB&H=LISTS...

kanzure 14y ago
> freely available api for your service, which exposes PDF links I configured an API like this just the other day (zotero's translation-server). I wanted an IRC bot to fetch pdfs. I call him paperbot. The big problem was figuring out how to extract the right links and metadata from each publisher. But the server seems to work.
mhluongo 14y ago
We don't have an API yet, but it's definitely in the works. Thanks for the listserv link- we're relatively plugged in to the library community but it's tough to keep up!