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What makes you think I have one? I don't know, maybe throwing a nuke on India? That would effectively kill all the rapists. I really don't subscribe to the ide

by Tichy 14y ago

What makes you think I have one? I don't know, maybe throwing a nuke on India? That would effectively kill all the rapists. I really don't subscribe to the ideology of "we have to do something, no matter if it even does harm". I think that is one of the worst things humans do on a regular basis. Actionism - is that a word in English? I don't think eating chocolate helps against cancer, but that doesn't imply that I know what helps against cancer. I simply don't know enough about India to know where to even start. I suppose improved women's rights, reliable police and stuff like that would help. Perhaps even a media campaign telling people it is not OK to rape will do some good.

jerf 14y ago
"I suppose improved women's rights, reliable police and stuff like that would help." This is specifically what I was expected when I added that it shouldn't be decades away from implementation in many parts of the country. Women are getting raped today. They need protection today. Maybe the balance doesn't work out in the West, maybe it doesn't even work out in India, but I doubt the harm is going to be so extensive that it isn't at least worth a try. Some people seem to be reacting as if we're equipping these women with live grenades or something. It's not. It's pepper spray... and we're talking a rape here. We've got some... "moral currency" to spend here before we're up to an outcome that is as bad as doing nothing.
- Tichy 14y ago
  If it works, sure - as I said, what I have heard is that it is actually detrimental for self-defense. Maybe you could also provide pepper spray training, which seems to be a requirement for using it effectively? Also, it seems a very aggressive stance, also with the wording about pigs. I worry that what we will see now in India (maybe it has been like that before) is a lot of acts of arbitrary law, people killing other people just because of a rumor. So in general I don't think pouring more oil into the fire is the best idea. Don't get me wrong, I have no sympathy for rapists at all. They can be roasted in a bath of pepper spray for all I care.

by Tichy 14y ago

jerf 14y ago

"I suppose improved women's rights, reliable police and stuff like that would help." This is specifically what I was expected when I added that it shouldn't be decades away from implementation in many parts of the country. Women are getting raped today. They need protection today. Maybe the balance doesn't work out in the West, maybe it doesn't even work out in India, but I doubt the harm is going to be so extensive that it isn't at least worth a try. Some people seem to be reacting as if we're equipping these women with live grenades or something. It's not. It's pepper spray... and we're talking a rape here. We've got some... "moral currency" to spend here before we're up to an outcome that is as bad as doing nothing.

Tichy 14y ago
If it works, sure - as I said, what I have heard is that it is actually detrimental for self-defense. Maybe you could also provide pepper spray training, which seems to be a requirement for using it effectively? Also, it seems a very aggressive stance, also with the wording about pigs. I worry that what we will see now in India (maybe it has been like that before) is a lot of acts of arbitrary law, people killing other people just because of a rumor. So in general I don't think pouring more oil into the fire is the best idea. Don't get me wrong, I have no sympathy for rapists at all. They can be roasted in a bath of pepper spray for all I care.