PHP is old. OO was added later, same for Funcional syntax and IMHO they feel a bit awkward compared to other languages that were created with these contructs fr

PHP is old. OO was added later, same for Funcional syntax and IMHO they feel a bit awkward compared to other languages that were created with these contructs from the beginning. The only real difference I find is that you need more discipline than you would with django/ror because you can mess it up more easily. PHP feels like C for web programming. If you feel your MVC framework complicates things it probably is for the former reason (more awkward syntax compared to dj/ror).