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2 things: - Most people didn't get into programming so that they could interview people 10+ hours per week. - Plenty of managers won't really count interviewi

2 things: - Most people didn't get into programming so that they could interview people 10+ hours per week. - Plenty of managers won't really count interviewing time in the project management tools (or give you credit however time is managed). You're still on the hook for whatever work you would have been responsible for with 0 interviews.

sliverstorm 14y ago
The second point is very important. If you are expected to interview people 10+ hours per week, that needs to be considered in your project goals and timeline expectations.
- kator 14y ago
  Yes and if your manager doesn't understand then it's time to find a new partner in your career.. I am always amazed at people who will let a PHB torture them and gladly bitch about it at every family function and with a round of friends at the bar. Really.. So you're an amazing talented person and you're letting a PHB ruin you life.. What does that say about YOU.. ????
kator 14y ago
> Most people didn't get into programming so that they could interview people 10+ hours per week. I agree that said I like working on really good teams with smart people so there is some balance, you either are willing to invest in improving your team or you can sort of hope it happens by accident. Hoping it happens by accent is like hoping you'll win the Lotto but never buying a ticket! > Plenty of managers won't really count interviewing time in the project management tools (or give you credit however time is managed). You're still on the hook for whatever work you would have been responsible for with 0 interviews. Then clearly for that manager this is not a priority and they should leave you alone. :-) I think the challenge then in that situation is the manager is making a big mistake. I'm a hands-on manager, I take stories off the board, I code, I do meetings and I know how hard it is to really deliver when you're doing lots of "distracting" things. If your manager is pressuring you to do interviews then you need to push back and take less work off the backlog. Employment should be a dialog, not a series of orders barked at you by someone who doesn't understand their impact.
michaelochurch 14y ago
Plenty of managers won't really count interviewing time in the project management tools (or give you credit however time is managed). You're still on the hook for whatever work you would have been responsible for with 0 interviews. Yet another reason why closed allocation and traditional management lead inevitably to decay. When there's a career penalty to time spent in recruiting, that's really bad for the future of the company.

sliverstorm 14y ago

The second point is very important. If you are expected to interview people 10+ hours per week, that needs to be considered in your project goals and timeline expectations.

kator 14y ago
Yes and if your manager doesn't understand then it's time to find a new partner in your career.. I am always amazed at people who will let a PHB torture them and gladly bitch about it at every family function and with a round of friends at the bar. Really.. So you're an amazing talented person and you're letting a PHB ruin you life.. What does that say about YOU.. ????

kator 14y ago

> Most people didn't get into programming so that they could interview people 10+ hours per week. I agree that said I like working on really good teams with smart people so there is some balance, you either are willing to invest in improving your team or you can sort of hope it happens by accident. Hoping it happens by accent is like hoping you'll win the Lotto but never buying a ticket! > Plenty of managers won't really count interviewing time in the project management tools (or give you credit however time is managed). You're still on the hook for whatever work you would have been responsible for with 0 interviews. Then clearly for that manager this is not a priority and they should leave you alone. :-) I think the challenge then in that situation is the manager is making a big mistake. I'm a hands-on manager, I take stories off the board, I code, I do meetings and I know how hard it is to really deliver when you're doing lots of "distracting" things. If your manager is pressuring you to do interviews then you need to push back and take less work off the backlog. Employment should be a dialog, not a series of orders barked at you by someone who doesn't understand their impact.

michaelochurch 14y ago

Plenty of managers won't really count interviewing time in the project management tools (or give you credit however time is managed). You're still on the hook for whatever work you would have been responsible for with 0 interviews. Yet another reason why closed allocation and traditional management lead inevitably to decay. When there's a career penalty to time spent in recruiting, that's really bad for the future of the company.