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Curious, no mention of the elephant in the room (Android).

by afsina 14y ago

pavanky 14y ago
> I've been blogging here for a decade and I stand on my reputation for being fair and impartial to the best of my abilities. ctrl + f "android"; none found. shrug. give up
- AdamTReineke 14y ago
  He does mention the Touchpad very briefly.
  - archangel_one 14y ago
    Where? I can only see one instance of "touchpad" and it's referring to the laptop mouse replacement thingy, not the HP tablet - which ran WebOS, not Android, anyway.
    - deleted 14y ago
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    - ConstantineXVI 14y ago
      He mentions "slightly larger tablets like the dead (and rooted) HP TouchSmart."; unless 20"[0] is his definition of a 'slightly larger tablet' and Windows can be rooted (in the Android sense) now, I think it's safe to assume he mis-typed TouchPad. [0] http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Desktops/HP-ENVY-TouchSmart/C0M05AV?HP-ENVY-20-d010t-TouchSmart-All-in-One-Desktop-PC http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Desk...
      - shanselman 14y ago
        Damn. I'll fix that. Yes I have a Androided TouchPad but I didn't think I was fair to consider it a proper Android device so I didn't add it in.
- sbuk 14y ago
  What if he's got no experience using Android and sensibly decided to make no comment on it? This insistence on balance is getting tedious. Humans like something better than others, often with prejudice. When I see someone claiming about bias or a lack of balance I just read it as the have a different opinion and want to whine about it.
  - gbog 14y ago
    > This insistence on balance is getting tedious. Balance? No, here I would insist on honesty. Had this guy been honest, he would have mentioned Android and maybe Ubuntu, at least to tell us he has not much experience with them. But as GP said: elephant in the room. Can you imagine a guy talking in general terms about high-end cars, emphasizing proudly his "reputation for being fair and impartial", talked at lengths about Mercedes and Audi, and about Audi and Mercedes, and never even mentioning BMW? Anyway, the Giant Mammoth in the room just shows how Microsoft fears Android much more than Apple, and rightly so.
    - sbuk 14y ago
      Not really. The OP was talking from personal experience. Besides, it's his blog. He is not a journalist, and the integrity that you are insisting upon is just a fallacy, as are the trite car analogies.
    - rimantas 14y ago
      > Had this guy been honest, he would have mentioned Android > and maybe Ubuntu, at least to tell us he has not much > experience with them So being honest means listing all the things you never touched and maybe don't even know they exist (Ubuntu mobile OS)?
    - shanselman 14y ago
      Honest it was just because a rooted TouchSmart is a crappy Android tablet. You can decide that means my employer affects my blogging so that I ignore that "elephant" or you can read my detailed post on how to root your own TouchSmart. ;) http://www.hanselman.com/blog/HowToUpgradeAnHPTouchPadToAndroidIceCreamSandwich.aspx http://www.hanselman.com/blog/HowToUpgradeAnHPTouchPadToAndr...
- officemonkey 14y ago
  He doesn't really mention "the Ultrabook of Ultrabooks," the Mac Air, either. I think that's just because he doesn't have much experience of it. If/when Apple decides to add a touch screen to their laptops, they will be extremely close to the perfect machine, IMHO.
  - shanselman 14y ago
    Agreed.
skrebbel 14y ago
Maybe he doesn't own an android device? It's a very personal article, about his and his family's personal experiences with a set of devices. Personally, I like these kinds of articles best. Statistics are nice, but real usage reports like these are something that I can relate to a lot better.
- cema 14y ago
  I absolutely agree about the usage reports. Among other things, being professionally involved in computing (and having been professionally involved for all my adult life) skews my perspective, and it is important to see what the regular people do with computing devices and how they feel about it.
randomfool 14y ago
Also no mention of Chromebooks, which contrast the $1200 ultrabooks he mentions.
- shanselman 14y ago
  I have a CR-48 that my mother in law uses for Email. It's a browser, and a slow one. I will mention it but my premise is that touch is essential.
  - RexRollman 14y ago
    No, it is not, unless dirty, finger print covered screens is your thing.
  - josteink 14y ago
    I will mention it but my premise is that touch is essential. Not to come off the wrong way, but in this case I think you are the only one holding on to this definition. For Chromebooks and Ultrabooks, the promise was to have a light, portable device with good battery time, mainly inteded to provide internet-access. With Ultrabooks, decent requirements for CPU, RAM and storage gets added. Both has a requirement for being "reasonably cheap" given what is offered (for instance sub $1000 for an Ultrabook) Intel, the ones "launching" the Ultrabook, has never once mentioned touch when they tried to sell the concept to PC-vendors.

Curious, no mention of the elephant in the room (Android).

by afsina 14y ago

Curious, no mention of the elephant in the room (Android).

> I've been blogging here for a decade and I stand on my reputation for being fair and impartial to the best of my abilities. ctrl + f "android"; none found. shrug. give up

AdamTReineke 14y ago
He does mention the Touchpad very briefly.
- archangel_one 14y ago
  Where? I can only see one instance of "touchpad" and it's referring to the laptop mouse replacement thingy, not the HP tablet - which ran WebOS, not Android, anyway.
  - deleted 14y ago
    [deleted]
  - ConstantineXVI 14y ago
    He mentions "slightly larger tablets like the dead (and rooted) HP TouchSmart."; unless 20"[0] is his definition of a 'slightly larger tablet' and Windows can be rooted (in the Android sense) now, I think it's safe to assume he mis-typed TouchPad. [0] http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Desktops/HP-ENVY-TouchSmart/C0M05AV?HP-ENVY-20-d010t-TouchSmart-All-in-One-Desktop-PC http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Desk...
    - shanselman 14y ago
      Damn. I'll fix that. Yes I have a Androided TouchPad but I didn't think I was fair to consider it a proper Android device so I didn't add it in.
sbuk 14y ago
What if he's got no experience using Android and sensibly decided to make no comment on it? This insistence on balance is getting tedious. Humans like something better than others, often with prejudice. When I see someone claiming about bias or a lack of balance I just read it as the have a different opinion and want to whine about it.
- gbog 14y ago
  > This insistence on balance is getting tedious. Balance? No, here I would insist on honesty. Had this guy been honest, he would have mentioned Android and maybe Ubuntu, at least to tell us he has not much experience with them. But as GP said: elephant in the room. Can you imagine a guy talking in general terms about high-end cars, emphasizing proudly his "reputation for being fair and impartial", talked at lengths about Mercedes and Audi, and about Audi and Mercedes, and never even mentioning BMW? Anyway, the Giant Mammoth in the room just shows how Microsoft fears Android much more than Apple, and rightly so.
  - sbuk 14y ago
    Not really. The OP was talking from personal experience. Besides, it's his blog. He is not a journalist, and the integrity that you are insisting upon is just a fallacy, as are the trite car analogies.
  - rimantas 14y ago
    > Had this guy been honest, he would have mentioned Android > and maybe Ubuntu, at least to tell us he has not much > experience with them So being honest means listing all the things you never touched and maybe don't even know they exist (Ubuntu mobile OS)?
  - shanselman 14y ago
    Honest it was just because a rooted TouchSmart is a crappy Android tablet. You can decide that means my employer affects my blogging so that I ignore that "elephant" or you can read my detailed post on how to root your own TouchSmart. ;) http://www.hanselman.com/blog/HowToUpgradeAnHPTouchPadToAndroidIceCreamSandwich.aspx http://www.hanselman.com/blog/HowToUpgradeAnHPTouchPadToAndr...
officemonkey 14y ago
He doesn't really mention "the Ultrabook of Ultrabooks," the Mac Air, either. I think that's just because he doesn't have much experience of it. If/when Apple decides to add a touch screen to their laptops, they will be extremely close to the perfect machine, IMHO.
- shanselman 14y ago
  Agreed.

skrebbel 14y ago

Maybe he doesn't own an android device? It's a very personal article, about his and his family's personal experiences with a set of devices. Personally, I like these kinds of articles best. Statistics are nice, but real usage reports like these are something that I can relate to a lot better.

cema 14y ago
I absolutely agree about the usage reports. Among other things, being professionally involved in computing (and having been professionally involved for all my adult life) skews my perspective, and it is important to see what the regular people do with computing devices and how they feel about it.

randomfool 14y ago

Also no mention of Chromebooks, which contrast the $1200 ultrabooks he mentions.

shanselman 14y ago
I have a CR-48 that my mother in law uses for Email. It's a browser, and a slow one. I will mention it but my premise is that touch is essential.
- RexRollman 14y ago
  No, it is not, unless dirty, finger print covered screens is your thing.
- josteink 14y ago
  I will mention it but my premise is that touch is essential. Not to come off the wrong way, but in this case I think you are the only one holding on to this definition. For Chromebooks and Ultrabooks, the promise was to have a light, portable device with good battery time, mainly inteded to provide internet-access. With Ultrabooks, decent requirements for CPU, RAM and storage gets added. Both has a requirement for being "reasonably cheap" given what is offered (for instance sub $1000 for an Ultrabook) Intel, the ones "launching" the Ultrabook, has never once mentioned touch when they tried to sell the concept to PC-vendors.