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I understand what you are trying to say, but this article is silly from many points of view. I don't want to answer with wise-ass comments like "you went to the
by RuggeroAltair 14y ago
I understand what you are trying to say, but this article is silly from many points of view. I don't want to answer with wise-ass comments like "you went to the wrong college" and such, so I'll give you a couple of arguments:
- College isn't only CS.
- Pure (computer or not) science isn't 'working for someone'. It's 'learning how to do (computer) science correctly', hopefully.
- Plagiarism is not what you are saying, which is superficial. Citing a paper and using previous work in academia isn't plagiarism, for example. Copying someone else's paper and putting your name on it is. Which IS bad. I can't take a linux distribution and tell the world I wrote it. But I can use it and (depending on the license) sell it. Or make something else with it and add my name on it.
- Performance matters or not depending on the users, obviously. But if you don't know that your algorithms are bad, or if you don't know how to fix them when you hit scaling problems, then what do you do with all your users? Sure, you can hire someone who went to college or learned that somewhere else, but then you'd be supporting the idea that there is no need to be technical to be founders, which is partly true but if google and others taught us something is that the technical founders tend to be able to understand some problems better (and solve them better).
- Learning the concepts behind the list you wrote isn't incompatible with college. If you take some business classes you can learn a lot of it. No one is forcing you not to take those classes or a major in CS and a minor in Economics.
- From college you don't get only the classes, but also the interaction with a lot of smart people, diversity, challenge and many other things. It changes you, hopefully in better.
- Getting excited about being entrepreneurs doesn't always mean the sooner the better. It depends if one is ready. Like with startup ideas, arriving too early may be as bad as arriving late. So, if you quit college for the sake of being an entrepreneur when you are 19 and then you fail, you lost the chance of getting 'more' ready through college.
- Same applies for grad school. You might not need to go to grad school to do anything. But a lot of people change the way they see the world going to grad school, which, if it made you wiser, could be a good quality to have when founding a startup (plus the extra knowledge).
All this to say that if you think that you can say "all this does is this" I think you might want to rethink a little bit, since it's rare that such absolutists ideas about things so controversial are ever correct.
- majormajor 14y ago"So, if you quit college for the sake of being an entrepreneur when you are 19 and then you fail, you lost the chance of getting 'more' ready through college." I hear this a lot (frequently even about passing on college for lucrative, if short-term, opportunities), but I don't get it. This isn't amateur athletics where you have to worry about losing your eligibility and wouldn't be able to get in without an athletic scholarship. You could easily go back to college at age 21 after a year or two of trying to start a business.
- RuggeroAltair 14y agoOh, I agree with you. Since I wrote a lot I didn't want to be so detailed, but basically I meant that I hear a lot of 'college is useless, I can learn by starting a company', and I disagree about the fact that you are learning the same things. Of course you certainly learn a lot by starting a company, it's a matter of making sure you are choosing that over college for the right reasons, and not 'only' because you feel like you will be the next twitter in a year, which most likely won't happen. I think that there might be a more natural order in going to school first, then starting a business. But it's not necessarily the unique or the right way. It's what I think. Ultimately it depends on the person. It's just hard to judge well about college when you haven't really gone through college, and I think that starting too early could be worse than starting a couple of years later. Just my opinion. It's not like there won't be any opportunities after college. So I just feel that I would expect a strong reason to feel like I can't wait anymore. But if the reason is that one thinks that in college you don't learn anything but working for someone, then I think that's the wrong reason. That's all.
- jff 14y agoYou can go to college any time, but it's damn nice to be the same age as everyone else there. I'd argue rather that unless you've got a really solid plan, given the choice you should go to college first. You can start a business any time, the only thing you'll miss out on by waiting 4 years is the "Check out this 19-year-old entrepreneur" techcrunch articles.
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