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i've went the backbone/knockout/angular route and i think all of them works great for simple things. but if your project gets a bit more complex (or where your

i've went the backbone/knockout/angular route and i think all of them works great for simple things. but if your project gets a bit more complex (or where your code-base changes frequently), you'll start running into all kinds of problems. yes, you can usually hack around them after several exchanges on the mailinglists/irc, but very time-consuming nevertheless. now, i'm back to plain javascript/jquery. i run into less headaches and more control, therefore more productive. my gripe is the same as op, the "magic" is what throws me off. angular is a bit too buggy, last i used was 6 months ago, and still lot of things they didn't support like proper callbacks upon rendering, etc ... basically something really easy to do in plain js, becomes like a rubik's cube with all the magic going on. just be prepared to write a lot of extra code/hacks/patches for certain things to just "work" if you decide to go the i.e; angular route. but don't say i didn't warn you :)

salmanapk 14y ago
Angular is used internally by Google for bit-more-than-complex projects so its possible my friend. It was also used for the Double Click for Advertisers rewrite.[1] >and still lot of things they didn't support like proper callbacks upon rendering, etc Heh render callbacks in Angular? That's so Backbone. Did you read the hello world tutorial? 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJoAnVRIVQo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJoAnVRIVQo
- oinksoft 14y ago
  If I understand correctly, most everything is still done with Closure Library and tools built in-house around that.
- jaequery 14y ago
  well, if you got the authors of angular on the team, anything is possible, no complaint there. magic is only 'magic' if you aren't the one who created it. also i don't know why not too many people bring up such issues as the 'if/else/switch' flagging nightmare that comes with maintaining an angular code-base. it makes your code a very verbose in that regards.

salmanapk 14y ago

Angular is used internally by Google for bit-more-than-complex projects so its possible my friend. It was also used for the Double Click for Advertisers rewrite.[1] >and still lot of things they didn't support like proper callbacks upon rendering, etc Heh render callbacks in Angular? That's so Backbone. Did you read the hello world tutorial? 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJoAnVRIVQo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJoAnVRIVQo

oinksoft 14y ago
If I understand correctly, most everything is still done with Closure Library and tools built in-house around that.
jaequery 14y ago
well, if you got the authors of angular on the team, anything is possible, no complaint there. magic is only 'magic' if you aren't the one who created it. also i don't know why not too many people bring up such issues as the 'if/else/switch' flagging nightmare that comes with maintaining an angular code-base. it makes your code a very verbose in that regards.