"Also: a lot of these tools have tutorials that don't really walk me through all of what I want to do, which initially involves a fairly straightforward "CRUD"

"Also: a lot of these tools have tutorials that don't really walk me through all of what I want to do, which initially involves a fairly straightforward "CRUD" type of application. I want to see how the framework deals with both 'make me a new one' and 'edit an existing one' forms, for instance." Couldn't have said it better myself. I can't count the number of times I had been excited about learning some new framework, only to discover that their documentation is non-existent, poor, or written for rocket scientists.