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> Visually pretty, but the grid is completely non-functional Came here to say this. "Eye candy" != easy to use.

by brianfryer 14y ago

mrharrison 14y ago
So pinterest is a fail?
- Firehed 14y ago
  Not inherently; this is just another example of "correlation is not causation". There are plenty of ugly things/websites easy to use, and pretty things that are hard to use. There are also plenty of pretty things easy to use, and ugly things hard to use.
- devcpp 14y ago
  "!=" as "non-identical sets", not "mutually exclusive sets". This is generally the expected behavior of the "!=" operator in sets.
  - brianfryer 14y ago
    Thanks, devcpp. This is exactly what I meant.
- oxide 14y ago
  Nice logical fallacy.
  - TeMPOraL 14y ago
    It's not a logical fallacy. People complain about 2-column layout of timeline and 2+-column layout of this "new look", because they have too many columns to follow at the same time, while I have yet to see anyone complaining about 5+-column layout of Pinterest.
    - pessimizer 14y ago
      It's also a logical fallacy to argue against "people" instead of bryanfryer, who said nothing of the sort.
    - bengillies 14y ago
      I believe it falls under the Association fallacy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy). The assumption is that because both designs share a common attribute they are both intended for the same purpose and therefore if one design is bad for a particular reason, the other design must also be bad for the exact same reason. This isn't necessarily true with Pinterest, which has a different purpose to Facebook, and therefore likely requires a different UI.
mrharrison 14y ago
Also, does that mean iOS and Android both fail with their grid designs for app buttons. I would be interested if someone can find an actual UX article with solid facts.
- duaneb 14y ago
  > does that mean iOS and Android both fail with their grid designs for app buttons. Of course not. That's a highly efficient way to represent visual icons. Facebook has a much different focus: for one, it's a linear idea (in its current formulation), either by date or by how facebook decides to prioritize your stuff (grumble). That said, I would probably much prefer to eschew all icons on android for a nice text list.

> Visually pretty, but the grid is completely non-functional Came here to say this. "Eye candy" != easy to use.

mrharrison 14y ago

So pinterest is a fail?

Firehed 14y ago
Not inherently; this is just another example of "correlation is not causation". There are plenty of ugly things/websites easy to use, and pretty things that are hard to use. There are also plenty of pretty things easy to use, and ugly things hard to use.
devcpp 14y ago
"!=" as "non-identical sets", not "mutually exclusive sets". This is generally the expected behavior of the "!=" operator in sets.
- brianfryer 14y ago
  Thanks, devcpp. This is exactly what I meant.
oxide 14y ago
Nice logical fallacy.
- TeMPOraL 14y ago
  It's not a logical fallacy. People complain about 2-column layout of timeline and 2+-column layout of this "new look", because they have too many columns to follow at the same time, while I have yet to see anyone complaining about 5+-column layout of Pinterest.
  - pessimizer 14y ago
    It's also a logical fallacy to argue against "people" instead of bryanfryer, who said nothing of the sort.
  - bengillies 14y ago
    I believe it falls under the Association fallacy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy). The assumption is that because both designs share a common attribute they are both intended for the same purpose and therefore if one design is bad for a particular reason, the other design must also be bad for the exact same reason. This isn't necessarily true with Pinterest, which has a different purpose to Facebook, and therefore likely requires a different UI.

mrharrison 14y ago

Also, does that mean iOS and Android both fail with their grid designs for app buttons. I would be interested if someone can find an actual UX article with solid facts.

duaneb 14y ago
> does that mean iOS and Android both fail with their grid designs for app buttons. Of course not. That's a highly efficient way to represent visual icons. Facebook has a much different focus: for one, it's a linear idea (in its current formulation), either by date or by how facebook decides to prioritize your stuff (grumble). That said, I would probably much prefer to eschew all icons on android for a nice text list.