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It's not whether I think Turkey is "West" or "East", it's more than I just don't interact with Turkish websites - so why should I broaden the attack surface of

by jrabone 14y ago

It's not whether I think Turkey is "West" or "East", it's more than I just don't interact with Turkish websites - so why should I broaden the attack surface of my browser unnecessarily? I realise that the CA -> domain mapping is a poor approximation, but it's the best we've got.

enraged_camel 14y ago
I have a feeling that _firatto is Turkish ("Firat" is a common Turkish name - I know because I'm Turkish!) so he may have taken offense to what you inadvertently implied about Turkey not being part of "The West". :)
- jrabone 14y ago
  My fault for being lazy and using it as a shorthand for "all countries between longitudes 120W and 30E", give or take a few degrees. No offence intended, I just don't live there!
  - fhars 14y ago
    Istanbul is 28°58'E.
- _firatto 14y ago
  Actually, and first of all I believe -want, feel- as a part of mother earth -Gaia- .. And 'west' refers a vision in my mind. Not a geographical place. Let me explain my offended part: I'm managing some servers on AWS Ireland zone, I have big list firewall rules, not copied and pasted somewhere else, I started all open, and slowly most of China, Taiwan, Korea, Russia ... being blocked -at least SMTP, SMPTS ports- . I'm sure there're some Turkish people may be involved cyber crime, But most of computer related people I know of is a hard worker, dependable, honest... This is the point of mine being offended..I don't mind not being included in a political society. And sorry for being offended ..:) PLUR.. Peace Love Unity Respect
  - jlgreco 14y ago
    I don't think he necessarily meant his comment as a slight against the Turkish people, though perhaps he worded it poorly. What he is saying makes sense if you generalize it too. Most Turkish people probably don't need their browsers to trust certificates from a Panamanian CA, and most Panamanians probably don't need to trust certificates from a Finnish CA. That shouldn't be taken as suggesting anything negative about Panamanians or Finns; it's all about removing trust relationships that are not necessary for users.

by jrabone 14y ago

enraged_camel 14y ago

I have a feeling that _firatto is Turkish ("Firat" is a common Turkish name - I know because I'm Turkish!) so he may have taken offense to what you inadvertently implied about Turkey not being part of "The West". :)

jrabone 14y ago
My fault for being lazy and using it as a shorthand for "all countries between longitudes 120W and 30E", give or take a few degrees. No offence intended, I just don't live there!
- fhars 14y ago
  Istanbul is 28°58'E.
_firatto 14y ago
Actually, and first of all I believe -want, feel- as a part of mother earth -Gaia- .. And 'west' refers a vision in my mind. Not a geographical place. Let me explain my offended part: I'm managing some servers on AWS Ireland zone, I have big list firewall rules, not copied and pasted somewhere else, I started all open, and slowly most of China, Taiwan, Korea, Russia ... being blocked -at least SMTP, SMPTS ports- . I'm sure there're some Turkish people may be involved cyber crime, But most of computer related people I know of is a hard worker, dependable, honest... This is the point of mine being offended..I don't mind not being included in a political society. And sorry for being offended ..:) PLUR.. Peace Love Unity Respect
- jlgreco 14y ago
  I don't think he necessarily meant his comment as a slight against the Turkish people, though perhaps he worded it poorly. What he is saying makes sense if you generalize it too. Most Turkish people probably don't need their browsers to trust certificates from a Panamanian CA, and most Panamanians probably don't need to trust certificates from a Finnish CA. That shouldn't be taken as suggesting anything negative about Panamanians or Finns; it's all about removing trust relationships that are not necessary for users.