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> to meditate for any reason other than because it's the truth will eventually be self-defeating. What? I get a type error when I try to parse that sentence (

> to meditate for any reason other than because it's the truth will eventually be self-defeating. What? I get a type error when I try to parse that sentence (meditation isn't a boolean). Could you explain that part?

stonemetal 14y ago
Truth not true. Basically he is saying if you follow Buddhism the Philosophy, but don't ascribe to Buddhism the Religion then you are doing it wrong.
- hosh 14y ago
  Uh. No.
jwdunne 14y ago
The present, which meditation allows you to experience, is truth because it's about experiencing what currently is without any subjective interpretation or judgement. It is what is, nothing more, nothing less - quite honestly the truth! To meditate for any other reason would mean ignorance, partial or full, of the present. The title of this post is a hood example: you shouldn't meditate to get shit done because that is a goal, a fabrication of the mind and is based firmly in the future which means its most definitely not about experiencing the present.
- hosh 14y ago
  With different words: "I want to get this shit done." <-- This is an artifact of the mind, though it feels real. In Noting practice, you attempt to "note" the arising and passing of artifacts. So, what is this? "I feel an impulse to get shit done." <-- Letting go of "getting shit done" and staying more to the present. In the present, you feel the impulse, you are not spraying your mind out into the imagined future/past where the shit has to be done. "I feel an impulse to finish." <-- Letting go on what you specifically needs to get done. "I feel an impulse." <-- Letting go of the notion of "finishing" something. "I feel." <-- Letting go of the notion of automatically reacting to impulses. "Feel." <-- Letting go of the notion of "self". "..." <-- Mu. "" <-- <-- "Oh shit, what hell was that?!?" <-- Everything that lives, will die, and eventually, new things are born. Just as "these things will pass", there new thoughts and emotions will arise. And so it goes.

stonemetal 14y ago

Truth not true. Basically he is saying if you follow Buddhism the Philosophy, but don't ascribe to Buddhism the Religion then you are doing it wrong.

hosh 14y ago
Uh. No.

jwdunne 14y ago

The present, which meditation allows you to experience, is truth because it's about experiencing what currently is without any subjective interpretation or judgement. It is what is, nothing more, nothing less - quite honestly the truth! To meditate for any other reason would mean ignorance, partial or full, of the present. The title of this post is a hood example: you shouldn't meditate to get shit done because that is a goal, a fabrication of the mind and is based firmly in the future which means its most definitely not about experiencing the present.

hosh 14y ago
With different words: "I want to get this shit done." <-- This is an artifact of the mind, though it feels real. In Noting practice, you attempt to "note" the arising and passing of artifacts. So, what is this? "I feel an impulse to get shit done." <-- Letting go of "getting shit done" and staying more to the present. In the present, you feel the impulse, you are not spraying your mind out into the imagined future/past where the shit has to be done. "I feel an impulse to finish." <-- Letting go on what you specifically needs to get done. "I feel an impulse." <-- Letting go of the notion of "finishing" something. "I feel." <-- Letting go of the notion of automatically reacting to impulses. "Feel." <-- Letting go of the notion of "self". "..." <-- Mu. "" <-- <-- "Oh shit, what hell was that?!?" <-- Everything that lives, will die, and eventually, new things are born. Just as "these things will pass", there new thoughts and emotions will arise. And so it goes.