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So you want gun owners to voluntarily add a GPS tracking device that is accessible by third parties to all of their guns? I don't like to outright dismiss proj

by learc83 14y ago

So you want gun owners to voluntarily add a GPS tracking device that is accessible by third parties to all of their guns? I don't like to outright dismiss projects, but I'm sorry you are never going to get enough people to do this for it to be worth anyone's time. And how is an alarm system going to help if the guy starts firing as soon as he walks in? The vast majority of gun homicides are committed by felons with handguns not unauthorized "assault weapons". GPS trackers are going to be easy for criminals to remove anyway.

senthilnayagam 14y ago
This is a voluntary option, for parents and people who dont want their guns to me taken out or misused without their permission. We already have electronic safes and gun safes, adding RFID or NFC based sensor would be practical, we would also need to add a sticker or embed a small chip inside the Gun. if a Gun is removed by unauthorized person it should raise a alarm
- learc83 14y ago
  If your're talking about an RFID tag that lets the owner know when something has been removed from the safe, I don't think anyone will have a problem with that. However, the site mentions GPS tracking and access to the tracking info by third parties (alerting a school when a tracked gun gets too close). That's a whole different ballgame.
  - senthilnayagam 14y ago
    we might open source a version which is linked to SMS only and which does not talk to a server, it can be done. bringing sensors to school and malls is lot cheaper than having troopers everywhere, but it needs political will
    - angersock 14y ago
      To be somewhat dark here: you don't really need sensors at malls or schools; their utility in the event of a shooting would probably be superseded by discharges or other obvious telltales of a weapon's presence.
    - mgarfias 14y ago
      You know what works better? Responsible armed people willing to confront evil with faced with it.
- phaus 14y ago
  I understand that you want to help people and save lives, but the reality of the fact is that your target market is going to universally hate your idea and the rationale behind it.
  - senthilnayagam 14y ago
    my belief stems from this link http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-1227-gun-buyback-20121227,0,7293938.story http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-1227-gun-buyback-201... even a couple of percentage adoption can be a big step
    - mgarfias 14y ago
      No, it'd actually be a hindrance (assuming the GPS-alert-school thing is implemented). It would give a false sense of security while doing next to nothing.
    - phaus 14y ago
      Gun buybacks are mostly for publicity. A good amount of the guns are stolen specifically to turn them in for cash. The people who organize these things make it sound like they are there to accept the surrender of a large, violent gang. Also, when a real gang member does sell a gun, chances are he still has at least one at home(like he's gonna change his entire lifestyle for 50 bucks.) Think about it, most guns cost way more than the 50 bucks they were offering for handguns in that article and ar15s average about 1k. Guns maintain resale value in a way that makes apple products look like disposable pens, so why would anyone who didn't steal their gun sell it to these people at a huge loss?
      - learc83 14y ago
        The aforementioned LA gun buyback also bought 2 completely useless, already fired, single use rocket launchers and paraded them around the press as if they'd accomplished something. The vast majority of guns turned in are old .22s and shotguns, very few "assault weapons" or even handguns for that matter.
      - 14y ago

by learc83 14y ago

senthilnayagam 14y ago

This is a voluntary option, for parents and people who dont want their guns to me taken out or misused without their permission. We already have electronic safes and gun safes, adding RFID or NFC based sensor would be practical, we would also need to add a sticker or embed a small chip inside the Gun. if a Gun is removed by unauthorized person it should raise a alarm

learc83 14y ago
If your're talking about an RFID tag that lets the owner know when something has been removed from the safe, I don't think anyone will have a problem with that. However, the site mentions GPS tracking and access to the tracking info by third parties (alerting a school when a tracked gun gets too close). That's a whole different ballgame.
- senthilnayagam 14y ago
  we might open source a version which is linked to SMS only and which does not talk to a server, it can be done. bringing sensors to school and malls is lot cheaper than having troopers everywhere, but it needs political will
  - angersock 14y ago
    To be somewhat dark here: you don't really need sensors at malls or schools; their utility in the event of a shooting would probably be superseded by discharges or other obvious telltales of a weapon's presence.
  - mgarfias 14y ago
    You know what works better? Responsible armed people willing to confront evil with faced with it.
phaus 14y ago
I understand that you want to help people and save lives, but the reality of the fact is that your target market is going to universally hate your idea and the rationale behind it.
- senthilnayagam 14y ago
  my belief stems from this link http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-1227-gun-buyback-20121227,0,7293938.story http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-1227-gun-buyback-201... even a couple of percentage adoption can be a big step
  - mgarfias 14y ago
    No, it'd actually be a hindrance (assuming the GPS-alert-school thing is implemented). It would give a false sense of security while doing next to nothing.
  - phaus 14y ago
    Gun buybacks are mostly for publicity. A good amount of the guns are stolen specifically to turn them in for cash. The people who organize these things make it sound like they are there to accept the surrender of a large, violent gang. Also, when a real gang member does sell a gun, chances are he still has at least one at home(like he's gonna change his entire lifestyle for 50 bucks.) Think about it, most guns cost way more than the 50 bucks they were offering for handguns in that article and ar15s average about 1k. Guns maintain resale value in a way that makes apple products look like disposable pens, so why would anyone who didn't steal their gun sell it to these people at a huge loss?
    - learc83 14y ago
      The aforementioned LA gun buyback also bought 2 completely useless, already fired, single use rocket launchers and paraded them around the press as if they'd accomplished something. The vast majority of guns turned in are old .22s and shotguns, very few "assault weapons" or even handguns for that matter.
    - 14y ago