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"No porn." Thanks mom! I'm mortified for the kid.

by wib 14y ago

sp332 14y ago
Porn never came up in a conversation with your parents? I don't mean on a regular basis but... even once?
- enraged_camel 14y ago
  Not really. My parents knew that regardless of any rules or restrictions they would place on me, I'd find a way around them and watch porn anyway. So the subject was never brought up.
  - dhimes 14y ago
    My father had equally pragmatic rules about alcohol and drugs. He made sure I was educated about the effects of drugs. He made sure that I knew that my mind was pretty awesome and putting it at risk is stupid. (He also knew that kids do such things- but try to be smart about it.) He told me my grades had to stay up and I couldn't lose my job. And he said that if the police came to the house and knew my name- if I was somehow involved enough in something and didn't have sense enough to get away- I would lose all of my freedom. Guilty or not. And if he ever caught me driving under the influence- the same. I had a lot of freedom, and I made some mistakes, but overall it worked out.
    - enraged_camel 14y ago
      I think that's a really good model for educating the kid, because it's actually a representation of how society at large works. We have lots of freedom, but if we abuse that freedom then we lose it. Driving licenses can be suspended or revoked for breaking traffic rules, hefty fines can be charged for misdemeanors, the individual can be imprisoned for more serious crimes, etc. Props to your dad.
FuzzyDunlop 14y ago
If it was in the UK it'd never happen anyway, unless the kid buys fake ID and sends the info to the network to enable adult content. "You must not use this phone to falsely identify yourself as an 18 year old."
- Tomdarkness 14y ago
  Depends what network you are on. I'm on 3 and you have to opt in to the filter, it is not enabled by default on contracts.
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- k-mcgrady 14y ago
  That filter only applies to the network (E/3G/4G) not wifi. With ISP's those filters are still opt-in.
vy8vWJlco 14y ago
Boy, am I glad my Mom didn't have a "no porn rule." I'd have been really confused about my body and people's behaviours. (I also would have been in a totally different field; turns out optimizing a 386 for fast porn teaches you everything you'll need for your career.) I might have even turned to religion. Our society is set up in such a way that porn is one of the few "safe" ways for young people to figure their junk out. Heaven help us if they do censor the net. He probably thought he'd get to play Angry Birds under his superman blanket. (Remember reading comics with a flashlight?) Instead he got an obligation and an emasculating letter. "Don't say anything you wouldn't say in public" probably would have sufficed. He can't even throw it under a bus for what it represents, because it isn't his. It's hers, and she's loaned it to him... :\
- sp332 14y ago
  porn is one of the few "safe" ways for young people to figure their junk out. I'm not exactly an expert at either porn or in-the-flesh sex but... I've always been given to understand that they are quite different.
  - cheald 14y ago
    Relying on porn to teach kids about sex is about as reasonable as relying on the Twilight movies to teach them about how to have healthy relationships.
  - GuiA 14y ago
    Porn is vast. You can find videos of pornstars exaggeratingly copulating, like you can find amateur videos of two 20-somethings having perfectly regular sex. Both, if seeked out by the teenager, are a subset of a perfectly healthy sex-education (much more so than the very politically correct discourse that passes for sex-ed in the US these days).
    - sp332 14y ago
      But how would an uninitiated teen know which ones are exaggerated and which are "regular"? It seems like watching porn would,not be,as stimulating as real sex, so people would seek out exaggerated videos which are not as, um, "educational".

"No porn." Thanks mom! I'm mortified for the kid.

by wib 14y ago

"No porn." Thanks mom! I'm mortified for the kid.

sp332 14y ago

Porn never came up in a conversation with your parents? I don't mean on a regular basis but... even once?

enraged_camel 14y ago
Not really. My parents knew that regardless of any rules or restrictions they would place on me, I'd find a way around them and watch porn anyway. So the subject was never brought up.
- dhimes 14y ago
  My father had equally pragmatic rules about alcohol and drugs. He made sure I was educated about the effects of drugs. He made sure that I knew that my mind was pretty awesome and putting it at risk is stupid. (He also knew that kids do such things- but try to be smart about it.) He told me my grades had to stay up and I couldn't lose my job. And he said that if the police came to the house and knew my name- if I was somehow involved enough in something and didn't have sense enough to get away- I would lose all of my freedom. Guilty or not. And if he ever caught me driving under the influence- the same. I had a lot of freedom, and I made some mistakes, but overall it worked out.
  - enraged_camel 14y ago
    I think that's a really good model for educating the kid, because it's actually a representation of how society at large works. We have lots of freedom, but if we abuse that freedom then we lose it. Driving licenses can be suspended or revoked for breaking traffic rules, hefty fines can be charged for misdemeanors, the individual can be imprisoned for more serious crimes, etc. Props to your dad.

FuzzyDunlop 14y ago

If it was in the UK it'd never happen anyway, unless the kid buys fake ID and sends the info to the network to enable adult content. "You must not use this phone to falsely identify yourself as an 18 year old."

Tomdarkness 14y ago
Depends what network you are on. I'm on 3 and you have to opt in to the filter, it is not enabled by default on contracts.
- deleted 14y ago
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k-mcgrady 14y ago
That filter only applies to the network (E/3G/4G) not wifi. With ISP's those filters are still opt-in.

vy8vWJlco 14y ago

Boy, am I glad my Mom didn't have a "no porn rule." I'd have been really confused about my body and people's behaviours. (I also would have been in a totally different field; turns out optimizing a 386 for fast porn teaches you everything you'll need for your career.) I might have even turned to religion. Our society is set up in such a way that porn is one of the few "safe" ways for young people to figure their junk out. Heaven help us if they do censor the net. He probably thought he'd get to play Angry Birds under his superman blanket. (Remember reading comics with a flashlight?) Instead he got an obligation and an emasculating letter. "Don't say anything you wouldn't say in public" probably would have sufficed. He can't even throw it under a bus for what it represents, because it isn't his. It's hers, and she's loaned it to him... :\

sp332 14y ago
porn is one of the few "safe" ways for young people to figure their junk out. I'm not exactly an expert at either porn or in-the-flesh sex but... I've always been given to understand that they are quite different.
- cheald 14y ago
  Relying on porn to teach kids about sex is about as reasonable as relying on the Twilight movies to teach them about how to have healthy relationships.
- GuiA 14y ago
  Porn is vast. You can find videos of pornstars exaggeratingly copulating, like you can find amateur videos of two 20-somethings having perfectly regular sex. Both, if seeked out by the teenager, are a subset of a perfectly healthy sex-education (much more so than the very politically correct discourse that passes for sex-ed in the US these days).
  - sp332 14y ago
    But how would an uninitiated teen know which ones are exaggerated and which are "regular"? It seems like watching porn would,not be,as stimulating as real sex, so people would seek out exaggerated videos which are not as, um, "educational".