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That's the point of the principle that two consenting adults should be allowed to do whatever they want in their own bedroom: that others may not approve for wh
by tolmasky 14y ago
That's the point of the principle that two consenting adults should be allowed to do whatever they want in their own bedroom: that others may not approve for whatever reason. You believe (perhaps completely validly) that if someone chooses to work for minimum wage they are hurting themselves and possibly "all of society". This is exactly the same argument made by people who don't want people having whatever sexual relations they want in their own bedroom. You will point out that they are wrong and your points are right -- but that's the whole point! If we say "some things are not safe for two consenting adults to do in their own bedroom", then how is your opinion on what's safe any better than theirs? In both circumstances you are interfering with someone's private choices arguing that you are "saving" them from their own ignorance or circumstances. You differ only in the subset of allowable activities -- and thus dont really support the principle of the stance, but instead happen to be ok with a different set of controls. We don't allow people to do whatever they want in their bedroom because its safe, we do so because it is none of our business and we theoretically don't want a society where we need to go ask everyone's permission before doing things with your partner, regardless of what those things may be.
I'm not necessarily arguing for this (extreme) position, but I agree that it is disingenuous to argue that you stand for people's rights to do whatever they want in their bedroom, followed by listing things they can't do because you believe they hurt society. You can certainly have that position, and it is a valid position, but it is a different position.
- pretoriusB 14y ago>That's the point of the principle that two consenting adults should be allowed to do whatever they want in their own bedroom: that others may not approve for whatever reason. You believe (perhaps completely validly) that if someone chooses to work for minimum wage they are hurting themselves and possibly "all of society". This is exactly the same argument made by people who don't want people having whatever sexual relations they want in their own bedroom. You will point out that they are wrong and your points are right -- but that's the whole point! No. The whole point is what is right and what is wrong. Not if what is right is _consistent_ in situations that is not exactly the same. The only same thing in those two situations presented is that there are "two adults" present. In the case of accepting "minimum wage" the one agreeing is not even "consenting" in the same sense. He is just doing something that he is _forced_ to do by hunger and lack of jobs. Even if one "needs to have sex", it's not at all the same kind of "need" as needing to eat and feed/shelter your family. The first is an option and a choice. The other is a necessity, and a leverage you can use of people to let them do degrading things. From prostituting themselves to selling their kids.