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Yes, I agree. Efficiency is not what I want from a restaurant. Waiting for my order is one of those rare times to spend time with someone, discuss things, and

Yes, I agree. Efficiency is not what I want from a restaurant. Waiting for my order is one of those rare times to spend time with someone, discuss things, and absorb the restaurant atmosphere. A good restaurant menu doesn't list all ingredients and recipes, presentations and pictures. I want that anticipation, that wonder, and that trust in the chef. When I receive my food I like to be surprised; to discovery and explore a dish, even if it's something I've had before. If the restaurant leaves a lasting impression on me, in terms of atmosphere, service, and taste, then I won't need a reminder of what I had last time. I don't need details/pictures of dishes because I already have that trust in the chef. And in terms of service, a good restaurant/waiter will recommend something for me, or know what I have ordered in the past. It's part of the social experience of dining, having an actual discussion with the people who know the food. Dave seems to be suggesting the exact opposite of what I would want in a quality restaurant experience. But I'm sure his opinion is different with children in the mix. It's really interesting how diverse the dining experience can be, and how both class and social groups can change your view of it.

davemc500hats 14y ago
>> "Efficiency is not what I want from a restaurant." umm, pretty sure that there IS a very large market of people who DO want efficiency as one of the attributes of restaurant customer service, even at the absolute high-end. in fact, some might say high-end restaurants excel at efficiency and customer service, and technology to bring this to the masses (whether at McD's or at French Laundry) would be welcomed by all. efficiency != low quality experience; in fact quite the contrary.
- rdl 14y ago
  If you want an example of an efficient upper-middle range restaurant: Cheesecake Factory. So efficient that someone used it as an example of how to fix the healthcare industry. They use a lot of science/tech, although not all computers. http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/08/13/120813fa_fact_gawande http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/08/13/120813fa_fact_...
  - davemc500hats 14y ago
    yes, and they are probably the best example i'm aware of so far, however i'm not a big fan of their menus... or at least the way they're laid out. like a big selection of movies to choose from, i get hungry/anxious just trying to make a decision. too many good options! would be great if i could have a few highly-recommended favorites (either theirs, my previous, or friends), and then i can always go "off-road" and dive into the long tail of options if none of those are what i want that evening. but yes, +1 for CheeseCake Factory.
    - rdl 14y ago
      Yes, their menus are the weakest part. But it would be an excellent restaurant to try something electronic, since it's "fun". The other thing I like (at some high-end steak or seafood places) is when they roll a cart out with the meats of the day. Or, Chinese Dim Sum carts. If there were a way for tech to replicate that, I'd be quite happy. Also for delivery or takeout, there's huge potential to show off daily specials and such.

davemc500hats 14y ago

>> "Efficiency is not what I want from a restaurant." umm, pretty sure that there IS a very large market of people who DO want efficiency as one of the attributes of restaurant customer service, even at the absolute high-end. in fact, some might say high-end restaurants excel at efficiency and customer service, and technology to bring this to the masses (whether at McD's or at French Laundry) would be welcomed by all. efficiency != low quality experience; in fact quite the contrary.

rdl 14y ago
If you want an example of an efficient upper-middle range restaurant: Cheesecake Factory. So efficient that someone used it as an example of how to fix the healthcare industry. They use a lot of science/tech, although not all computers. http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/08/13/120813fa_fact_gawande http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/08/13/120813fa_fact_...
- davemc500hats 14y ago
  yes, and they are probably the best example i'm aware of so far, however i'm not a big fan of their menus... or at least the way they're laid out. like a big selection of movies to choose from, i get hungry/anxious just trying to make a decision. too many good options! would be great if i could have a few highly-recommended favorites (either theirs, my previous, or friends), and then i can always go "off-road" and dive into the long tail of options if none of those are what i want that evening. but yes, +1 for CheeseCake Factory.
  - rdl 14y ago
    Yes, their menus are the weakest part. But it would be an excellent restaurant to try something electronic, since it's "fun". The other thing I like (at some high-end steak or seafood places) is when they roll a cart out with the meats of the day. Or, Chinese Dim Sum carts. If there were a way for tech to replicate that, I'd be quite happy. Also for delivery or takeout, there's huge potential to show off daily specials and such.