> the concepts were far less hard than the combination of notation and esoteric jargon with liberal use of symbols and weird letters made them seem I really do

> the concepts were far less hard than the combination of notation and esoteric jargon with liberal use of symbols and weird letters made them seem I really don't get the hate for mathematical notation here, do you have specific examples? Notation is a necessary tool to express complex ideas compactly so that others can understand them. It allows you to carry out technical proofs that confirm things that are "obvious". Then it uses previously introduced concepts to build new concepts on top of them. This keeps mathematics interconnected, there's value in explaining a concept in terms of already known things rather than just vibing it. > makes itself intentionally hard It doesn't make itself intentionally hard, it is just hard. You can simplify some expositions and make concepts easier to understand intuitively but it won't necessarily give you the skills to actually work with them in mathematical practice (which is the point of mathematics as a discipline).