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In most countries without 100% tariffs and outright bans Toyota's sales are in decline because of competition from BYD. For example, sales for the first half o
by schaefer 6d ago
In most countries without 100% tariffs and outright bans Toyota's sales are in decline because of competition from BYD.
For example, sales for the first half of 2026 vs first half of 2025 in Australia show:
Toyota is down 20%
BYD is up 68%
- fragmede 6d agoWhich is great to throw around numbers, but how are their reliability numbers? Before I throw out my 20 year old Honda for a BYD, how is the 20 year old BYD (or Telsa or Slate) doing? Unfortunately we don't know, though we're coming up on 29 years for Tesla soon.
- gumby 6d ago14 years, really, if you don’t count the roadster (which I think it is correct not to do).
- schaefer 6d agoFrag, I am engaging in this from a "Logic 101" perspective. I saw a false premise used in an argument and I only wanted to point that out. I have no actual position on cars brands or apple computers or any of that.
- ndiddy 6d agoThe comment you're replying to is saying that in fair markets, BYD is taking market share away from Toyota even without the proven track record of reliability. Saying "But I wouldn't buy a BYD unless I knew it was reliable" is kind of missing the point.
- throw0101c 6d ago> In most countries without 100% tariffs and outright bans Toyota's sales are in decline because of competition from BYD. Is it because BYD is more reliable or 'just' cheaper? There are a number of folks for who H/T would be their first pick if not for (a) waitlists and/or (b) price considerations. And there a lot of folks who don't necessarily care if the car will last 10 or 15(+) years because they'll replace it earlier that that, so as long as it's 'good enough' it's fine.
- cpursley 6d ago^ why are people downvoting this comment, they are objective facts.