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I'm sorry, I'm not following. Is the problem here that China is too capitalist or too communist?

pixl97 10d ago
Yes. More of, China is smart enough to use the benefits of both capitalism and authoritarianism to grow their country while western governments are busy stealing the furniture and fixtures off the walls.
- nixon_why69 10d ago
  I agree with 100% of that comment but I'm struggling to understand the beef? Of course they're trying to take care of themselves while the US implodes, how can you blame them for that? The whole world has a serious oil problem right now, because of US actions, and of course each country is dealing with it in their own way. Why is that a problem?
  - pixl97 10d ago
    You do realize that a lot of people have had problems with America after WWII and using their economic and military power to dictate what the rest of the world does, right? "Problem" is a relative term for those dealing with the consequences of it. It is one if you are America means a whole lot less economic freedom than you had in the past. If this is a good thing or not depends on your position.
    - nixon_why69 10d ago
      If your beef is that they are succeeding or at least failing less while America steps on it's dick repeatedly, maybe this isn't their problem? If you're fired up by nationalism but your nation is sucking, getting mad at the Chinese isn't the answer. And that's before we even get into relative levels of activism, Chinese political ideology is much more biased towards "neutral, just trade" than American politics.
fragmede 10d ago
False dichotomy. the problem is far deeper than that, and wanting to simplify the problem to those two extremes belies a belief that the world could and should be able to be simplified into two power dynamic. It is not. The world, and the powers that fight within in, are far more dynamic than a simple communist or capitalist spectrum, and attempts to simplify the world along those lines is only going to hurt you.

Yes. More of, China is smart enough to use the benefits of both capitalism and authoritarianism to grow their country while western governments are busy stealing the furniture and fixtures off the walls.

nixon_why69 10d ago
I agree with 100% of that comment but I'm struggling to understand the beef? Of course they're trying to take care of themselves while the US implodes, how can you blame them for that? The whole world has a serious oil problem right now, because of US actions, and of course each country is dealing with it in their own way. Why is that a problem?
- pixl97 10d ago
  You do realize that a lot of people have had problems with America after WWII and using their economic and military power to dictate what the rest of the world does, right? "Problem" is a relative term for those dealing with the consequences of it. It is one if you are America means a whole lot less economic freedom than you had in the past. If this is a good thing or not depends on your position.
  - nixon_why69 10d ago
    If your beef is that they are succeeding or at least failing less while America steps on it's dick repeatedly, maybe this isn't their problem? If you're fired up by nationalism but your nation is sucking, getting mad at the Chinese isn't the answer. And that's before we even get into relative levels of activism, Chinese political ideology is much more biased towards "neutral, just trade" than American politics.

fragmede 10d ago

False dichotomy. the problem is far deeper than that, and wanting to simplify the problem to those two extremes belies a belief that the world could and should be able to be simplified into two power dynamic. It is not. The world, and the powers that fight within in, are far more dynamic than a simple communist or capitalist spectrum, and attempts to simplify the world along those lines is only going to hurt you.