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Imagine spending a trillion dollars on data centers and then reading this article. Nightmare fuel for OpenAI
by sghiassy 12d ago
Imagine spending a trillion dollars on data centers and then reading this article. Nightmare fuel for OpenAI
- whalesalad 12d agoFor 99.99% of people, spending 15 grand on a Mac Studio just to run Qwen 3.8 locally is a non starter.
- jmull 12d agoIt's not the M5 Ultra itself, but the M7s or M9s that will do the damage. 99% of people will use whatever AI is free. The sophisticated, heavy users that are willing and able to pay a lot of money the ones that will be interested in controlling their inference bills. Today, the sweet spot where an M5 Ultra makes sense is tiny. But we might expect that to grow a lot.
- BatFastard 11d agoAnthropic is reporting 100 Billion ARR. Even if you could get a frontier model, you would not be able to run it on any Mac. So speculating on what M7 or M9 will achieve in 5 years (if we even still exist) seems pointless.
- sghiassy 11d agoDo you need a frontier model to write emails, check your calendar, search the web? I don’t think Apple is going to lie down and cede AI to the cloud.
- geodel 11d ago> Do you need a frontier model to write emails, check your calendar, search the web? How about writing mail to President and senators on AI doomsday scenario if frontier labs do not pace themselves? That mini model on mac mini would scared to hell to do such thing. It need that rugged frontier model to speak truth to power.
- BatFastard 11d agoTrue, but do you need a 10,000 dollar machine to do so? I would love to find an excuse to buy a 10,000 dollar machine! But I cant find one yet. My current cloud bill is in excess of 400 USD per month. Just can't achieve frontier model capabilities locally.
- beastman82 12d agoat 15 tok/s
- sghiassy 12d agoYes, but in 7 years?
- whalesalad 11d agoIn 7 years we will probably all be living under ground fighting skynet with plasma rifles made out of old microwave parts
- fragmede 11d agoYou will. Some of us are going to be already ground into dust that the microwave parts are made out of. Others will be locked into our communism cubes with our daily allotment of entertainment and sustinece. let out into the sunlight for only 30 minutes per day.
- sghiassy 11d agoI’ve watched Terminator 2 extensively. I am prepared
- CamperBob2 11d agoAnd nightmare fuel is just what they'll be selling at the UN this week, for this very reason. Sam's address will probably be more riveting, imaginative, and terrifying than the last couple of Terminator screenplays. Legislators will lobby him to write the laws for them, and the ghost of Harlan Ellison will threaten to sue him.
- ajross 11d agoI don't see how that math works? This is a $15k rig under benchmark and per the results it competes very acceptably against... one consumer GPU. I really don't see who buys this, except people who want the Studio for some other reason. But nothing in the story says you want to fill racks with these instead of Blackwell or TPU parts; it's not even close.
- sghiassy 11d agoYour math is correct, but it’s math based on today’s economics. Think of a company like Apple moving onto your turf. They’re not going to cede AI to the cloud. They want their part of the pie. So in 7 years, how much AI will be handled locally on your iPhone. And will you have repaid all the debt on your balance sheet before Apple eats your lunch