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Probes into Toronto's shooter-for-hire network thwarted by impenetrable phone

18 points by throw0101a 5d ago

throw0101a 5d ago
https://archive.today/https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-probes-toronto-shooter-for-hire-impenetrable-phone-graphene-os/ https://archive.today/https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada... https://archive.is/jcqar https://archive.is/jcqar
ratelimitsteve 5d ago
>[The GrapheneOS project] also said it has not received any kind of request for assistance from a Canadian police force in recent months. We saw this in the US with apple (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple%E2%80%93FBI_encryption_dispute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple%E2%80%93FBI_encryption_d...). They want the big win of forcing all encryption to have a law enforcement backdoor built in, so any time they run into encryption that hampers a legitimate investigation their first response is to throw up their hands and go "The only way we can keep you safe is if you give up this bit of your freedom." Then that effort either succeeds or fails, and then an earnest effort to decrypt this particular phone begins.
cucumber3732842 5d ago
"Hey guy's I've got a great idea, let's reframe our inability/unwillingness to do real police work as a technology problem in order to get the stupid peasants to not be too pissed off when we push a bill to snoop on them even more than we already do" It's not like Toronto isn't already carpet bombed with surveillance. It's not like they don't have everyone's metadata. They could figure this out of they wanted. Damn near every paragraph in this article is filled with unverified speculation "might be connected", "could be related". It's like text based equivalent of the scene in Anchor Man "the driver is on drugs", "we think he has a hostage or two". I bet there will be a dozen articles just like this from other cities over the next couple months.
- cindyllm 5d ago
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ls612 5d ago
Your daily dose of authoritarian propaganda about how any measure of privacy or technical freedom is an affront to society in their eyes.
- kspacewalk2 5d ago
  The article quotes extensively from the GrapheneOS lawyer, privacy advocates and security researchers. It doesn't owe you an unquestioning hagiography of GrapheneOS.

18 points by throw0101a 5d ago

https://archive.today/https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-probes-toronto-shooter-for-hire-impenetrable-phone-graphene-os/ https://archive.today/https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada... https://archive.is/jcqar https://archive.is/jcqar

ratelimitsteve 5d ago

>[The GrapheneOS project] also said it has not received any kind of request for assistance from a Canadian police force in recent months. We saw this in the US with apple (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple%E2%80%93FBI_encryption_dispute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple%E2%80%93FBI_encryption_d...). They want the big win of forcing all encryption to have a law enforcement backdoor built in, so any time they run into encryption that hampers a legitimate investigation their first response is to throw up their hands and go "The only way we can keep you safe is if you give up this bit of your freedom." Then that effort either succeeds or fails, and then an earnest effort to decrypt this particular phone begins.

cucumber3732842 5d ago

"Hey guy's I've got a great idea, let's reframe our inability/unwillingness to do real police work as a technology problem in order to get the stupid peasants to not be too pissed off when we push a bill to snoop on them even more than we already do" It's not like Toronto isn't already carpet bombed with surveillance. It's not like they don't have everyone's metadata. They could figure this out of they wanted. Damn near every paragraph in this article is filled with unverified speculation "might be connected", "could be related". It's like text based equivalent of the scene in Anchor Man "the driver is on drugs", "we think he has a hostage or two". I bet there will be a dozen articles just like this from other cities over the next couple months.

cindyllm 5d ago
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ls612 5d ago

Your daily dose of authoritarian propaganda about how any measure of privacy or technical freedom is an affront to society in their eyes.

kspacewalk2 5d ago
The article quotes extensively from the GrapheneOS lawyer, privacy advocates and security researchers. It doesn't owe you an unquestioning hagiography of GrapheneOS.