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Stop the Ruby Drama
- jamesbritt 14y agoThis seems pretty dramatic itself. Is this melodrama or metadrama? I get the feeling any sort of drama is really limited to certain subcommunties surrounding certain projects. I bet most people using Ruby don't give a shit about any alledged drama.
- moccajoghurt 14y agoWhat kind of drama are we talking about? Can anyone share some background information?
- martinp 14y agoProbably the drama surrounding a recent Rails commit [0] and DHHs follow-up blog post. [1] [0] https://github.com/rails/rails/commit/61b91c4c55bcbd5a2ec85d6e1c67755150653dff https://github.com/rails/rails/commit/61b91c4c55bcbd5a2ec85d... [1] http://david.heinemeierhansson.com/2012/rails-is-omakase.html http://david.heinemeierhansson.com/2012/rails-is-omakase.htm...
- donretag 14y agoAlso this: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4800972 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4800972 I am very glad I don't work with web frameworks. It seems that they attract drama queens.
- espadrine 14y agoWhat Ruby drama is this targeting? I hear about Rails drama quite often. Ruby? Not so much. This being said, the message is wise, and sounds very similar in spirit to Chris Williams' outstanding talk An End to Negativity [1]. [1]: http://jsconf.eu/2011/an_end_to_negativity.html http://jsconf.eu/2011/an_end_to_negativity.html
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- googoobaby 14y agoJeez, do Fortranists and Cists have these problems?
- danso 14y agoHN seems to be regularly filled with debates and discussions on all popular languages and frameworks. It doesn't seem that Ruby or Rails has a disproportionate number of "dramatic" flare ups but I could see why a site whose existence depends on such incidents would try to convince us otherwise.
- nmcfarl 14y agoTrue. However I’d say you have to start somewhere. And Ruby’s as good a place as any. After that you can move on to HaskellDrama.com and PrologDrama.com. And once we’ve got the geek community’s head on straight we can dive to the source with DramaClubDrama.com
- keeran 14y agoAt least rubydramas.com is slightly functional (albeit out of date;).
- DoubleMalt 14y agoHow many gazillions is a millon? ;)
- ajsharp 14y ago1st. World. Problems. Get over it.
- wiremine 14y agoOpinionated BDFLs tend to elicit opinionated feedback. Rails (DHH) and Linux (Linus) tends to have similar levels of "drama" or whatever you want to call it. However, is that a bad thing? DHH and Linus have a lot of passion, and produce a great product... It would be interesting to compare and contract that style of management with something like Python's PEP. Is there any academic research on that sort of things? Guido has made equally tough calls, and you don't see things like PythonDrama.com out there. (Insert joke about Monty Python being a comedy troupe here...)
- trustfundbaby 14y agoIts often said that the best characteristics of a person/thing are often times also the worst. I think its becoming clear that the irreverence that made Ruby on Rails so exciting initially is also manifesting itself as plain old immaturity. Please guys, knock off this snarky name calling (over nothing really). It really is a poor reflection on the Rails community at large.
- danneu 14y agoThe echo chamber chicken littling of drama is more insufferable than any drama I've come across. In fact, I've got to wonder if drama even exists until someone swoops in to name it so. That must be the transition point where it goes from "opinionated people talking in a public channel" to the abject specter of "drama".