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What facts do you think can change my preferences? I'm sitting here telling you I want apple pie, and you're harping on about how "kale salads have all the vita

What facts do you think can change my preferences? I'm sitting here telling you I want apple pie, and you're harping on about how "kale salads have all the vitamins you need!". We're talking at each other, because you failed to understand. This isn't about what you think the facts are, but about what I want to happen. I can accept those as facts and it wouldn't change anything.

lazyasciiart 6d ago
This feels unrelated to anything else being said, unless you’re arguing that literally no arguments feature a factually incorrect position.
AuthAuth 6d ago
In your example you would be saying you want apple pie because it gives you all these vitamins. Then when told apple pie is not the answer and its actually kale you want them you immediately pivot to a different for ending up at apple pie. Its the floating table. You knock all the legs of their argument down and their belief only gets stronger. They are not switched on.
- NoMoreNicksLeft 5d ago
  >In your example you would be saying you want apple pie because it gives you all these vitamins. No. I just want it. That's the part you don't seem to get. It's a preference. There's no reason or rationale that you can attempt to short-circuit with any fact. >ts the floating table. You knock all the legs of their argument down and They're not arguing with you. They're attempting to tell you that this is their preference. That they won't change their mind. Sometimes they're bad at it, can't articulate it. Other times they say this perfectly clearly... doesn't much matter, because you're not listening. You hear what you want to hear (like above, with "you think the apple pie has vitamins!"). >and their belief only gets stronger. They are not switched on. It's not belief. That's actually frustration. And a little bit of spite.

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What facts do you think can change my preferences? I'm sitting here telling you I want apple pie, and you're harping on about how "kale salads have all the vita

by NoMoreNicksLeft 6d ago

lazyasciiart 6d ago
This feels unrelated to anything else being said, unless you’re arguing that literally no arguments feature a factually incorrect position.
AuthAuth 6d ago
In your example you would be saying you want apple pie because it gives you all these vitamins. Then when told apple pie is not the answer and its actually kale you want them you immediately pivot to a different for ending up at apple pie. Its the floating table. You knock all the legs of their argument down and their belief only gets stronger. They are not switched on.
- NoMoreNicksLeft 5d ago
  >In your example you would be saying you want apple pie because it gives you all these vitamins. No. I just want it. That's the part you don't seem to get. It's a preference. There's no reason or rationale that you can attempt to short-circuit with any fact. >ts the floating table. You knock all the legs of their argument down and They're not arguing with you. They're attempting to tell you that this is their preference. That they won't change their mind. Sometimes they're bad at it, can't articulate it. Other times they say this perfectly clearly... doesn't much matter, because you're not listening. You hear what you want to hear (like above, with "you think the apple pie has vitamins!"). >and their belief only gets stronger. They are not switched on. It's not belief. That's actually frustration. And a little bit of spite.