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> Like what? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foodborne_illness_outbreaks_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foodborne_illness_out

> Like what? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foodborne_illness_outbreaks_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foodborne_illness_outb... If a product isn't nationally consolidated, it can't have a national foodborne illness outbreak.

gruez 13d ago
>it can't have a national foodborne illness outbreak. Which is bad for PR and great for clicks, but it's entirely unclear whether we're better off on average. What about all the years where we didn't have a mass outbreak? Would it be better if every state/county had separate food supply chains, and they had the same rate of illness, but it's more randomly dispersed so it doesn't make it to national TV? Think the difference between airplane crash (maybe one incident per year, hundreds of deaths per incident) vs car crashes (40k/year)
- jrflowers 13d ago
  Hmm yes. Two deaths, over a thousand hospitalizations, and not a single state in the US with zero cases, but those are just things that are real and happened which means they do not take into account things that didn’t happen or things you could imagine in your mind. If we simply envision a nation without diarrhea have we not eradicated it in our hearts, where it matters mos
  - alex43578 13d ago
    Absolutely hilarious that you think a small farm has any better hygiene than a large farm.
    - 5upplied_demand 12d ago
      Nobody said that, nor is it relevant. The point is if the food supply is more diversified, we are less exposed to single points of failure.
      - alex43578 12d ago
        It’s absolutely relevant because a diversified food supply would result in smaller farms, other things held equal. You have fewer single points of failure, but more opportunities for failure and a tougher time addressing it via inspection, and less capital available to implement compliance.

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> Like what? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foodborne_illness_outbreaks_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foodborne_illness_out

by everfree 13d ago

gruez 13d ago
>it can't have a national foodborne illness outbreak. Which is bad for PR and great for clicks, but it's entirely unclear whether we're better off on average. What about all the years where we didn't have a mass outbreak? Would it be better if every state/county had separate food supply chains, and they had the same rate of illness, but it's more randomly dispersed so it doesn't make it to national TV? Think the difference between airplane crash (maybe one incident per year, hundreds of deaths per incident) vs car crashes (40k/year)
- jrflowers 13d ago
  Hmm yes. Two deaths, over a thousand hospitalizations, and not a single state in the US with zero cases, but those are just things that are real and happened which means they do not take into account things that didn’t happen or things you could imagine in your mind. If we simply envision a nation without diarrhea have we not eradicated it in our hearts, where it matters mos
  - alex43578 13d ago
    Absolutely hilarious that you think a small farm has any better hygiene than a large farm.
    - 5upplied_demand 12d ago
      Nobody said that, nor is it relevant. The point is if the food supply is more diversified, we are less exposed to single points of failure.
      - alex43578 12d ago
        It’s absolutely relevant because a diversified food supply would result in smaller farms, other things held equal. You have fewer single points of failure, but more opportunities for failure and a tougher time addressing it via inspection, and less capital available to implement compliance.