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What is the deal with europeans who have zero knowledge of construction having a weird grudge against wood framing?

by woah 13d ago

esseph 13d ago
Ignorance, mostly. They don't understand how the layers and designs work together because they don't live here.
mschuster91 13d ago
> europeans who have zero knowledge of construction I actually worked in construction and now studying electrical engineering, focus residential. > weird grudge against wood framing Well, it's cheap to build but sold to your population at prices that have us ROFLing, it needs to be treated with all kinds of nastyness to survive stuff like termites, a lot of construction is incredibly shoddy (watch some Cy Porter), it's not durable like our houses that last many decades to centuries... choose your pick.
- esseph 12d ago
  > it's not durable like our houses that last many decades to centuries... And none of your homes would last more than 50y here before an earthquake, tornado, or hurricane destroyed them.
- woah 12d ago
  I've lived most of my adult life in wooden structures that are over 100 years old. They will stand for another 100 as long as waterproofing is maintained (and a masonry building will be severely damaged as well if it is not waterproof). They have been through multiple earthquakes and are easy to repair if damaged, by opening up one of the "cardboard" walls and nailing in some more wood pieces. When they are built in wildfire-prone localities, they are coated in stucco and given concrete roof shingles, making them as fire resistant as masonry buildings. Houses are expensive in the US because the land is expensive here (location location location), and because there is shortage of skilled labor due to the high employment rate. Areas of the US with levels of economic performance similar to Europe have similarly cheap houses.

2 ms·

What is the deal with europeans who have zero knowledge of construction having a weird grudge against wood framing?

by woah 13d ago

What is the deal with europeans who have zero knowledge of construction having a weird grudge against wood framing?

esseph 13d ago
Ignorance, mostly. They don't understand how the layers and designs work together because they don't live here.
mschuster91 13d ago
> europeans who have zero knowledge of construction I actually worked in construction and now studying electrical engineering, focus residential. > weird grudge against wood framing Well, it's cheap to build but sold to your population at prices that have us ROFLing, it needs to be treated with all kinds of nastyness to survive stuff like termites, a lot of construction is incredibly shoddy (watch some Cy Porter), it's not durable like our houses that last many decades to centuries... choose your pick.
- esseph 12d ago
  > it's not durable like our houses that last many decades to centuries... And none of your homes would last more than 50y here before an earthquake, tornado, or hurricane destroyed them.
- woah 12d ago
  I've lived most of my adult life in wooden structures that are over 100 years old. They will stand for another 100 as long as waterproofing is maintained (and a masonry building will be severely damaged as well if it is not waterproof). They have been through multiple earthquakes and are easy to repair if damaged, by opening up one of the "cardboard" walls and nailing in some more wood pieces. When they are built in wildfire-prone localities, they are coated in stucco and given concrete roof shingles, making them as fire resistant as masonry buildings. Houses are expensive in the US because the land is expensive here (location location location), and because there is shortage of skilled labor due to the high employment rate. Areas of the US with levels of economic performance similar to Europe have similarly cheap houses.