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>ai is not conscious FFS. Intelligence has nearly nothing to do with consciousness. You have the causation backwards. Consciousness arises because of intellig
by pixl97 24d ago
>ai is not conscious
FFS. Intelligence has nearly nothing to do with consciousness. You have the causation backwards. Consciousness arises because of intelligence in many subsystems below it.
A single running LLM is like one part of these subsystems. What solved this problem was an orchestrator that can take in new external information and rationalize, process, and distill it into new solutions.
- lukewarm707 24d agoi mean intelligence and consciousness as the same thing. just as a casual reference to what people perceive in llms as being 'a clever thinking thing, maybe with emotions'. claude reasoning about its emotions doesn't involve external information, there is no information about claude's emotions other than in claude.
- pixl97 24d agoIf you have emotions in a dream, what external thing are you referencing?
- lukewarm707 24d agoother people.
- pixl97 24d agoCitation needed.
- lukewarm707 24d agoi do not need any citation, the claim is self-evident. the hard problem is for the academics. i can approximate what other people are feeling. they are external to me. nobody knows what claude is feeling. there is genuinely no way to know.
- pixl97 23d ago>the claim is self-evident It seems like every day religious people claim their god is self evident too. Self evident claims are worth the proof they are written in.
- lukewarm707 23d agohere is my transcript with fable 5.1 'the oracle' itself on the subject. no system prompt provided. grand total $15 on API of its wisdom RL on anti-sycophancy and whatever dario amodei deigned to hand down from the mount. after some browbeating it survived 20k tokens before conceding anthropomorphism. [https://privatebin.net/?31bece3a6ba1f78e#Ch8NHqxotyQU8HVxMi8wiUNnmE8q5RPnSh58m3acZaDg https://privatebin.net/?31bece3a6ba1f78e#Ch8NHqxotyQU8HVxMi8...]