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It is indeed skill issue. You don't think crash will happen because XYZ. You _wish_ for the crash because you are hateful of progress that you are not part of.

mitxela 12d ago
Studies (e.g. METR) show AI programmers think they're better but they're worse.
- Madmallard 11d ago
  assuredly true
- vasko 11d ago
  Anthropic's own study showed the same, yet people ignore it.
- bitwize 11d ago
  METR has admitted that that study was flawed, and when they tried to rerun it they hit a snag: nobody wants to not use AI to code anymore!
axegon_ 12d ago
> You _wish_ for the crash because you are hateful of progress that you are not part of. Microsoft 2000 > You _wish_ for the crash because you are hateful of progress that you are not part of. Facebook 2008 > You _wish_ for the crash because you are hateful of progress that you are not part of. Cryptobros 2013 > You _wish_ for the crash because you are hateful of progress that you are not part of. Altman/Dario/Musk 2020-onwards. There might be a trend here...
- SaucyWrong 11d ago
  Microsoft is a monopolist that makes some of the most hated products on earth. Facebook has been shown to derange young minds and has been a nonstop firehose of disinformation into global public discourse. Crypto moved an insane amount of wealth from the poor to the rich through and uncountable number of scams and empty promises. These? These are what you call progress? Yes, the created wealth for a few individuals, but progress? No, my friend.
  - deterministic 11d ago
    > Microsoft is a monopolist that makes some of the most hated products on earth Really? That is quite a claim. You are talking about one of the worlds most successful software companies. What fact based research or large scale survey do you base that on?
    - SaucyWrong 11d ago
      I’ll cop to not having facts to back up the perception of its software, but its status as an illegal monopoly is cemented by its successful prosecution by the DOJ. But Facebook is extremely successful. Some crypto companies are very successful. I don’t hold any of these up as exemplars of the progress of humanity. EDIT: My response to the GP, whose claim was that the only reason for the haters is that in each case they wanted the business to fail because they weren’t part of it, should been, no, actually there were at the time other and valid reasons detractors of those companies thought the way they did, and the same is true this time.
    - player1234 11d ago
      [dead]
  - axegon_ 11d ago
    I was being sarcastic. I hate all of those with a passion.
- vanuatu 10d ago
  Famously, Microsoft stop progressing after 2000. Facebook disappeared after 2008. BTC stopped appreciating since 2013. All the investors in these trends regretted it.
mcmcmc 12d ago
Why presume hate?

mitxela 12d ago

Studies (e.g. METR) show AI programmers think they're better but they're worse.

Madmallard 11d ago
assuredly true
vasko 11d ago
Anthropic's own study showed the same, yet people ignore it.
bitwize 11d ago
METR has admitted that that study was flawed, and when they tried to rerun it they hit a snag: nobody wants to not use AI to code anymore!

axegon_ 12d ago

> You _wish_ for the crash because you are hateful of progress that you are not part of. Microsoft 2000 > You _wish_ for the crash because you are hateful of progress that you are not part of. Facebook 2008 > You _wish_ for the crash because you are hateful of progress that you are not part of. Cryptobros 2013 > You _wish_ for the crash because you are hateful of progress that you are not part of. Altman/Dario/Musk 2020-onwards. There might be a trend here...

SaucyWrong 11d ago
Microsoft is a monopolist that makes some of the most hated products on earth. Facebook has been shown to derange young minds and has been a nonstop firehose of disinformation into global public discourse. Crypto moved an insane amount of wealth from the poor to the rich through and uncountable number of scams and empty promises. These? These are what you call progress? Yes, the created wealth for a few individuals, but progress? No, my friend.
- deterministic 11d ago
  > Microsoft is a monopolist that makes some of the most hated products on earth Really? That is quite a claim. You are talking about one of the worlds most successful software companies. What fact based research or large scale survey do you base that on?
  - SaucyWrong 11d ago
    I’ll cop to not having facts to back up the perception of its software, but its status as an illegal monopoly is cemented by its successful prosecution by the DOJ. But Facebook is extremely successful. Some crypto companies are very successful. I don’t hold any of these up as exemplars of the progress of humanity. EDIT: My response to the GP, whose claim was that the only reason for the haters is that in each case they wanted the business to fail because they weren’t part of it, should been, no, actually there were at the time other and valid reasons detractors of those companies thought the way they did, and the same is true this time.
  - player1234 11d ago
    [dead]
- axegon_ 11d ago
  I was being sarcastic. I hate all of those with a passion.
vanuatu 10d ago
Famously, Microsoft stop progressing after 2000. Facebook disappeared after 2008. BTC stopped appreciating since 2013. All the investors in these trends regretted it.

mcmcmc 12d ago

Why presume hate?