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> you have not achieved much in life There are over 6 billion people on this planet. How many have you heard of by name? Of those you have heard of, how many

by lostnet 14y ago

> you have not achieved much in life There are over 6 billion people on this planet. How many have you heard of by name? Of those you have heard of, how many appear to have happy lives and don't have children who wont talk to them or belong on a MTV reality show? I would say live well and if after you die you are remembered outside of your friends and family then you most likely did something wrong.

theorique 14y ago
if after you die you are remembered outside of your friends and family then you most likely did something wrong. What? What about Steve Jobs or Richard Feynman or Christopher Hitchens? (to pick three random examples) They are dead and well known because they are highly accomplished. Of course, doing things because you expect to be remembered for it is misguided. But being remembered after you die by large numbers of people is not a sign that you did something wrong.
- cjfont 14y ago
  I'm going to guess that lostnet is saying that it is easier to be remembered for doing something wrong than for doing something right, although I'm not sure what value that would have in terms of advice.
  - theorique 14y ago
    Guess so. It certainly seems easier to get notoriety - at least for a short time - by doing something significantly hurtful to people (e.g. die in a violent blaze of glory while mass murdering others, like the recent incident in Newtown, CT). However, I agree that this isn't necessarily useful information for someone who has an innocent question about feeling like a loser.
    - lostnet 14y ago
      The point I was trying to make is that trying to be at the top in one area instead of comfortable in all areas of your life is really not the sign of a person with a healthy self image and often a sign of someone to avoid at a personal level, who is probably not a helpful to their own family. I'm not big on the heros thing. But the people I looked up to as a child they were people who could fix their own house, show me how to use physics to rescue a lost toy, etc. When I think of "successful" people like Henry Ford or even John Kennedy, I think how great it is to be unrelated to the rich and famous. I wont even touch the tech rich by name. But yes, I feel the same way about them... If you make more than those around and have more social status and you still aren't happy then ask yourself what those around you have not how to get more of what isn't helping.

by lostnet 14y ago

theorique 14y ago

if after you die you are remembered outside of your friends and family then you most likely did something wrong. What? What about Steve Jobs or Richard Feynman or Christopher Hitchens? (to pick three random examples) They are dead and well known because they are highly accomplished. Of course, doing things because you expect to be remembered for it is misguided. But being remembered after you die by large numbers of people is not a sign that you did something wrong.

cjfont 14y ago
I'm going to guess that lostnet is saying that it is easier to be remembered for doing something wrong than for doing something right, although I'm not sure what value that would have in terms of advice.
- theorique 14y ago
  Guess so. It certainly seems easier to get notoriety - at least for a short time - by doing something significantly hurtful to people (e.g. die in a violent blaze of glory while mass murdering others, like the recent incident in Newtown, CT). However, I agree that this isn't necessarily useful information for someone who has an innocent question about feeling like a loser.
  - lostnet 14y ago
    The point I was trying to make is that trying to be at the top in one area instead of comfortable in all areas of your life is really not the sign of a person with a healthy self image and often a sign of someone to avoid at a personal level, who is probably not a helpful to their own family. I'm not big on the heros thing. But the people I looked up to as a child they were people who could fix their own house, show me how to use physics to rescue a lost toy, etc. When I think of "successful" people like Henry Ford or even John Kennedy, I think how great it is to be unrelated to the rich and famous. I wont even touch the tech rich by name. But yes, I feel the same way about them... If you make more than those around and have more social status and you still aren't happy then ask yourself what those around you have not how to get more of what isn't helping.