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PSOE happened

by guille_ 12d ago

PSOE happened

embedding-shape 12d ago
> Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. But then again, discussing politics hardly ever gets less divisive here or elsewhere.
- mdp2021 11d ago
  The fault in that comment is to be unsupported by arguments. Otherwise, there would be no divisiveness in fairly assessing measures in Economics.
lnsru 12d ago
I was been there. I mean socialist fantasy and everyone was equally poor except party members. It is astonishing to watch this shit happening in different countries with different cultures during long period of time. But with same end. And it is not prosperity. This time in Berlin as recent example: https://www.politico.eu/article/berlin-election-housing-crisis-left-party/ https://www.politico.eu/article/berlin-election-housing-cris...
- dotancohen 11d ago
  Why are the protesters in Berlin holding signs in English?
  - miohtama 11d ago
    Because they want to have the eyes of global press on Germany
    - dotancohen 11d ago
      Instead of the eyes of their own politicians? Are their goals to actually effect change in Germany or to disparage Germany in the eyes of the global press?
      - mitxela 11d ago
        Almost every German politician, most of the police and half the population of Germany speaks English, even though it shouldn't be used for official business. It's no barrier.
        dotancohen 11d ago
        Language is also a cultural signifier. English might not be a barrier, but protesting in English certainly communicates that the protesters care not for German culture.
        mitxela 11d ago
        Isolating itself from the world isn't part of German culture either
        tom-cat 11d ago
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      - MentalM 10d ago
        > Instead of the eyes of their own politicians? Politicians? It is messages for the voters, and they are leftist politics (so their voters doesn't understand German)
  - mitxela 11d ago
    Half of everyone in Germany can speak English. It's mandatory to learn in schools. In Berlin that percentage is even higher. So it's no obstacle. And they don't want to limit the visibility of the protest to only Germany. Germany is one of the more native-language-enforcing countries in Europe. I've been to Slovenia and half of everything is actually written in English, unlike Germany or France where everything's written in the local language.
fcatalan 11d ago
Since the end of the Civil War in 1939, Spain has spent roughly 65% of the time under Right/Far-Right rule and 35% under Left/Center-Left rule.
- bsoqk 11d ago
  Since 1978 Spain has spent 100% of the time under left rule.
  - fcatalan 11d ago
    By my count 30 years out of 48 are not nearly 100%. If you consider Suarez, Calvo-Sotelo, Aznar and Rajoy leftists you might be a bit too much out there.
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PSOE happened

by guille_ 12d ago

PSOE happened

> Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. But then again, discussing politics hardly ever gets less divisive here or elsewhere.

mdp2021 11d ago
The fault in that comment is to be unsupported by arguments. Otherwise, there would be no divisiveness in fairly assessing measures in Economics.

lnsru 12d ago

I was been there. I mean socialist fantasy and everyone was equally poor except party members. It is astonishing to watch this shit happening in different countries with different cultures during long period of time. But with same end. And it is not prosperity. This time in Berlin as recent example: https://www.politico.eu/article/berlin-election-housing-crisis-left-party/ https://www.politico.eu/article/berlin-election-housing-cris...

dotancohen 11d ago
Why are the protesters in Berlin holding signs in English?
- miohtama 11d ago
  Because they want to have the eyes of global press on Germany
  - dotancohen 11d ago
    Instead of the eyes of their own politicians? Are their goals to actually effect change in Germany or to disparage Germany in the eyes of the global press?
    - mitxela 11d ago
      Almost every German politician, most of the police and half the population of Germany speaks English, even though it shouldn't be used for official business. It's no barrier.
      - dotancohen 11d ago
        Language is also a cultural signifier. English might not be a barrier, but protesting in English certainly communicates that the protesters care not for German culture.
        mitxela 11d ago
        Isolating itself from the world isn't part of German culture either
        tom-cat 11d ago
        [dead]
    - MentalM 10d ago
      > Instead of the eyes of their own politicians? Politicians? It is messages for the voters, and they are leftist politics (so their voters doesn't understand German)
- mitxela 11d ago
  Half of everyone in Germany can speak English. It's mandatory to learn in schools. In Berlin that percentage is even higher. So it's no obstacle. And they don't want to limit the visibility of the protest to only Germany. Germany is one of the more native-language-enforcing countries in Europe. I've been to Slovenia and half of everything is actually written in English, unlike Germany or France where everything's written in the local language.

fcatalan 11d ago

Since the end of the Civil War in 1939, Spain has spent roughly 65% of the time under Right/Far-Right rule and 35% under Left/Center-Left rule.

bsoqk 11d ago
Since 1978 Spain has spent 100% of the time under left rule.
- fcatalan 11d ago
  By my count 30 years out of 48 are not nearly 100%. If you consider Suarez, Calvo-Sotelo, Aznar and Rajoy leftists you might be a bit too much out there.

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