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I would only use the term "censorship" to refer to the prevention of speech based on its content. Content-neutral time, place, and manner restrictions aren't ce
by qerghnui 13d ago
I would only use the term "censorship" to refer to the prevention of speech based on its content. Content-neutral time, place, and manner restrictions aren't censorship according to the way I use the word, and neither is copyright protection.
Note that censorship isn't necessarily bad and restrictions on speech that aren't censorship aren't necessarily acceptable. The prohibition on child pornography is censorship but I support it, while I am opposed to IP law in its entirety.
- Gathering6678 13d agoAnna's Archive is prevented by some countries from visiting because of its (presumably illegal) content. All restrictions are based on its content.
- qerghnui 13d agoIs that in fact the reason? I'm not familiar with what's happening outside the USA.
- Gathering6678 13d agoSee "Spotify lawsuit" in the wikipedia article. Also: "In January 2024, Italy's ... ordered major internet service providers (ISPs) in the country to block Anna's Archive due to a copyright complaint..." "In March 2024, ... ordered major ISPs in the Netherlands to block Anna's Archive and LibGen due to a request by advocacy group BREIN (which represents the interests of the Dutch entertainment industry)." "In December 2024, the UK Publishers Association won an order from the High Court of Justice requiring major ISPs to block Anna's Archive... under section 97A of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act." Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna%27s_Archive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna%27s_Archive
- asdfaoeu 13d agoI don't think they are disputing it was blocked more the reason was copyright not other reasons.
- mitxela 13d agoCopyright is a content-based reason.
- Gathering6678 12d agoMy point is - copyright is also a "content related" reason: some site is banned because the content of the site is infringing the copyright of someone else. In the end, all censorship is content related. One could definitely argue along the spectrum of "all" to "none" censorship is appropriate, but I would guess most people actually hold the belief that "some" censorship is okay, while disagreeing on "which" censorship is okay. If this is the case, then the bias problem is indeed relevant.
- Gathering6678 12d agoPlus, this sentence in the original post I replied to really struck me as absurd: "Content-neutral time, place, and manner restrictions aren't censorship". Let's imagine a country bans the distribution of all writings by authors in another country/region disregard of the content. It would not be censorship according to the original post. The fact that a ban encompasses a wide variety of content could mean simply that it is difficult/undesirable to limit the scope of the ban, but the censorship always originates from the content.
- WillPostForFood 12d agoYou are misunderstanding time/place/manner restrictions. The rule must apply equally to all speakers regardless of topic, opinion, or political stance. If you banned "the distribution of all writings by authors in another country/region" you aren't applying the restriction equally.
- mitxela 12d agoSo Anna's Archive ban is not a t/p/m restriction so why bring it up. But when Iran turns off the whole internet during a protest apparently that is a content-neutral t/p/m restriction?
- mitxela 12d agoNobody is blocking it because the internet is only allowed on weekdays or because all pages must have a blue background...