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I don't think so. This one seems to defy the rule. "A his-toric day" "An his-toric day" Both seem to work correctly with American pronunciation. Journalists

I don't think so. This one seems to defy the rule. "A his-toric day" "An his-toric day" Both seem to work correctly with American pronunciation. Journalists and films seem to use "an historic" with an American accent, which breaks the rule but still feels correct. For most words the indefinite article is clear. This one feels weird.

beaned 6d ago
They do, but only because it's been adopted from British media and literature. You might even say it's a symptom of being over-read, if that's possible. "An historic" is certainly used in the US, but it's wrong in all contexts.
kelnos 6d ago
> This one seems to defy the rule. No it doesn't. If I pronounce the "h", then using "an" sounds weird. If I don't, then "a" sounds weird. > Journalists and films seem to use "an historic" with an American accent Curious if you have a link to a video of this, I can't imagine it sounding correct.
- Rendello 6d ago
  I didn't know about "an historic" until I heard it from American journalists. They did pronounce the 'h' and it did indeed sound very wrong. I believe I first heard it from Rachel Maddow. I can't find any clips, but there are a bunch of transcripts from her show if you search up: > Rachel Maddow "an historic day" For example: - https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna47356492 https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna47356492 - https://www.ms.now/transcript/2013-11-21-msna738766 https://www.ms.now/transcript/2013-11-21-msna738766
  - beaned 6d ago
    It's one of those things American pseudo intellectuals do because they think it's more correct and want to sound superior. Maybe they heard a professor say it that way or read it in a book. Anything but actually process why the a/an distinction exists.
    - echelon 6d ago
      Sportscasters do it too. It's all over media. You hear it in movies. I'm pretty sure "an historic" is the norm in American media, not the other way around.

beaned 6d ago

They do, but only because it's been adopted from British media and literature. You might even say it's a symptom of being over-read, if that's possible. "An historic" is certainly used in the US, but it's wrong in all contexts.

kelnos 6d ago

> This one seems to defy the rule. No it doesn't. If I pronounce the "h", then using "an" sounds weird. If I don't, then "a" sounds weird. > Journalists and films seem to use "an historic" with an American accent Curious if you have a link to a video of this, I can't imagine it sounding correct.

Rendello 6d ago
I didn't know about "an historic" until I heard it from American journalists. They did pronounce the 'h' and it did indeed sound very wrong. I believe I first heard it from Rachel Maddow. I can't find any clips, but there are a bunch of transcripts from her show if you search up: > Rachel Maddow "an historic day" For example: - https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna47356492 https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna47356492 - https://www.ms.now/transcript/2013-11-21-msna738766 https://www.ms.now/transcript/2013-11-21-msna738766
- beaned 6d ago
  It's one of those things American pseudo intellectuals do because they think it's more correct and want to sound superior. Maybe they heard a professor say it that way or read it in a book. Anything but actually process why the a/an distinction exists.
  - echelon 6d ago
    Sportscasters do it too. It's all over media. You hear it in movies. I'm pretty sure "an historic" is the norm in American media, not the other way around.