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Personally I think if you were going to make a poster for a Japanese themed spring festival, and you did NOT include some sakura, you completely misunderstood t

by gretch 7d ago

Personally I think if you were going to make a poster for a Japanese themed spring festival, and you did NOT include some sakura, you completely misunderstood the assignment. Your promotional poster for a community gathering should not be subverting the western gaze on Japanese culture, or any other concept from art criticism 101. It's supposed to get average people in your neighborhood to glance at it for 5-10 seconds and say, "cool looks like a good time"

sm-silversight 7d ago
Artist here. I'd rip off Kawase Hasui 100 different ways without using sakura or subverting anything.
atomicnumber3 7d ago
More like 100ms or less as their visual field coincidentally sweeps over wherever the ad is posted in the physical world. In this regard, it's even more important to use something people subconsciously associate with your thing.
wiether 7d ago
YMMV but my experience tells me that the more cliché something looks, the more likely it's bad/cheap. I've never been in a cliché-looking restaurant that is actually decent. Meanwhile, the best restaurants I know have, at best, a flag or some kind of small drawing to give a clue about their nationality, but otherwise they look like a regular local one.
- ddosmax556 7d ago
  Right, but the best restaurants are not most restaurants. The best high end events are not most events. Most events and restaurants could be improved a lot by AI already
- jere 6d ago
  > I've never been in a cliché-looking restaurant that is actually decent You either have an absurd standard for "decent" or this is one of the weirdest comments I've ever read here.
dreambuffer 5d ago
You just don't know what it's like to live in a place where art and culture is truly valued. Take Japan, for a relevant example. Many things in japan are given an extra small twist to aesthetically elevate them. The food looks a little prettier, their packages are just a bit neater, their technology is cute, they put little doodles on everything, aside from new-age products or architecture everything has a little bit of personal touch and care. This is because there is some tradition of taking pride in small details and not reaching for the most obvious solution. A society that values culture is taking the extra 3 minutes to think of or look up some Japanese iconography that would make the poster a bit more interesting than a sakura even if brainless "average" people cannot figure out how it is relevant to Japan, the hope being that all of us learn and appreciate these things a bit more.
- gretch 5d ago
  > Take Japan, for a relevant example. Many things in japan are given an extra small twist to aesthetically elevate them. I've been to Japan. How would you comment on the aesthetic of this "Little Texas" bar in Tokyo: https://www.littletexas.jp/ https://www.littletexas.jp/ Do you think they are valuing the true culture of modern Texas? Because in my opinion this bar is filled with the most basic Texas cliches I can think of: cowboy hats, longhorn skulls, etc. Probably a lot more egregious than putting a sakura on a poster.

by gretch 7d ago

sm-silversight 7d ago

Artist here. I'd rip off Kawase Hasui 100 different ways without using sakura or subverting anything.

atomicnumber3 7d ago

More like 100ms or less as their visual field coincidentally sweeps over wherever the ad is posted in the physical world. In this regard, it's even more important to use something people subconsciously associate with your thing.

wiether 7d ago

YMMV but my experience tells me that the more cliché something looks, the more likely it's bad/cheap. I've never been in a cliché-looking restaurant that is actually decent. Meanwhile, the best restaurants I know have, at best, a flag or some kind of small drawing to give a clue about their nationality, but otherwise they look like a regular local one.

ddosmax556 7d ago
Right, but the best restaurants are not most restaurants. The best high end events are not most events. Most events and restaurants could be improved a lot by AI already
jere 6d ago
> I've never been in a cliché-looking restaurant that is actually decent You either have an absurd standard for "decent" or this is one of the weirdest comments I've ever read here.

dreambuffer 5d ago

You just don't know what it's like to live in a place where art and culture is truly valued. Take Japan, for a relevant example. Many things in japan are given an extra small twist to aesthetically elevate them. The food looks a little prettier, their packages are just a bit neater, their technology is cute, they put little doodles on everything, aside from new-age products or architecture everything has a little bit of personal touch and care. This is because there is some tradition of taking pride in small details and not reaching for the most obvious solution. A society that values culture is taking the extra 3 minutes to think of or look up some Japanese iconography that would make the poster a bit more interesting than a sakura even if brainless "average" people cannot figure out how it is relevant to Japan, the hope being that all of us learn and appreciate these things a bit more.

gretch 5d ago
> Take Japan, for a relevant example. Many things in japan are given an extra small twist to aesthetically elevate them. I've been to Japan. How would you comment on the aesthetic of this "Little Texas" bar in Tokyo: https://www.littletexas.jp/ https://www.littletexas.jp/ Do you think they are valuing the true culture of modern Texas? Because in my opinion this bar is filled with the most basic Texas cliches I can think of: cowboy hats, longhorn skulls, etc. Probably a lot more egregious than putting a sakura on a poster.