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The paper is one year old. https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.01237 https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.01237 https://pypi.org/project/hallunox/ https://pypi.org/project/halluno
by nandakishor_ml 17d ago
The paper is one year old. https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.01237 https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.01237
https://pypi.org/project/hallunox/ https://pypi.org/project/hallunox/
- prodigycorp 17d agoExcuse me, but calibrating language models to accurately reflect probabilities did not start with you.
- nandakishor_ml 17d agoI didn't claimed it bro it was first. Just shared the findings here.
- prodigycorp 17d ago[flagged]
- nandakishor_ml 17d agojust not these jev guys not opensourcing their work
- verdverm 17d agoYou used a number of not open source projects in your paper, are you equally upset with them for this reason?
- dcow 17d ago[flagged]
- jeremyjh 17d agoGenerally they do credit the papers and/or people who developed the theory behind their product.
- charcircuit 17d agoResearchers definitely do get paid for research. That Google company you mention funds research which can be integrated into their products.
- Matticus_Rex 17d agoSure, researchers get paid when they either do the research under contract or productize the research and sell it themselves. But they don't usually do the latter because that's quite difficult.
- verdverm 17d agoAre you grouping academic research funded by grants under the contract category? To me, there is a meaningful difference and I'd add a third category, but I can also see the contract angle
- potterpie 16d agoIdeas are cheap. But the ideas are cheap coming from anyone. The reason some ideas (like JEV's) are taking up our attention (as opposed to Laya's) is not because of their execution ability, but because venture funding now is subbing filling in for execution ability. I do understand your argument to this would be - "welcome to the world!" or "that's just how the world works" - but that does not mean we do not recognize the ideas that came well before "venture funding made it happen". I'd like to remind us all that there is a reason Joseph Liouville took the time to painstakingly review Galois’s chaotic manuscripts to credit him. It matters who did what before everyone else - if you do want to say "ideas are cheap" - we'd need to control for other variables before drawing conclusions.
- dcow 15d agoI think we just have different definitions of execution. Getting VC funding and spending two years honing and SaaSifying an idea then dropping it with a hype train (yes paid for by VC funding) is certainly very different execution than someone writing a paper and publishing model weights on huggingface then vibe coding a “product” around it a year later the day after Jev is announced and the hype proves defensible and the idea is similar.