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Modern and blazing fast, what we lost leaving behind languages like Modula-2 and Object Pascal, having newer generations to think C and C++ were the only compil
by pjmlp 7d ago
Modern and blazing fast, what we lost leaving behind languages like Modula-2 and Object Pascal, having newer generations to think C and C++ were the only compiled languages alternatives to scripting languages.
- touisteur 7d agoI miss the years of writing CLI tools, web servers and clients, in Ada (and of course, real-time complex distributed system...). Felt so simple and right and fast and robust. The code is still readable today and maintaining it is a zero effort today. Clean Java without the enterprise BS was a close second in ease of programming - boilerplate be damned. I'm glad NVIDIA found a way to make GPUs programmable and got us out of the shaders tarpit, but did it have to be C++...
- pjmlp 7d agoAlso a good one.
- jstimpfle 7d agoYou repeating this weird strawman take a million times doesn't make it true. Why don't you finally just put out some genuinely interesting projects demonstrating how everybody was doing it wrong, so people can make up their own mind and finally be convinced. There must be some true magic in those languages and platforms you mention, that should offset the pain of writing in upper case and with super long KEYWORDs everywhere, and to offset the cost of switching to a culture that has way less mindshare and way less of a software ecosystem around it. FWIW I've actually worked for 6 months on a large old Delphi project. It was some performance work that, as almost always, mainly required getting the language crap out of the way. In the end I got the job done (100x-1000x speedup) but I wouldn't want to switch back to this ecosystem: Licensing costs, weird language warts there too. A slow moving ecosystem. Ultimately, I just need something that does what I tell it to do, reliably and fast, and that doesn't get in the way.
- pjmlp 7d agoIf you don't like, press PgDn.
- AndrewDucker 7d agoPeople should reply on Hacker News. If you disagree with someone's opinion and you have reasons for doing so then the right thing to do is share them.
- pjmlp 7d agoSure, except there is a bit of history here, this isn't the first exchange, and I am not bothering to reply back as we aren't going to change opinion on C vs safer languages until we leave this realm. Thus we can keep filling HN with pointless comments or move on.
- jstimpfle 7d agoThere is plenty history of you repeating the same strawmans literally thousands of times. I've just never seen _anyone_ on HN (or elsewhere for that matter) make such claims?
- pjmlp 7d agoHere goes again, better improve your Algolia search skills if you cannot find anyone else.
- jstimpfle 7d agoI don't even have to search. Given the frequency of you repeating the same old tired stories, one is bound to stumble over your comments every other day.
- pjmlp 6d agoApparently it is not tiring enough, given that you keep replying. Here is an hint, I won't stop having my opinion, so you can keep replying every time I do them, and we will repeat similar discussion threads, or move on and touch grass or something.