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> "air gapping AI can't (hypothetically) work because it will figure out a way to basically morse code across the airgap" All things well-known for good two de
by TeMPOraL 7d ago
> "air gapping AI can't (hypothetically) work because it will figure out a way to basically morse code across the airgap"
All things well-known for good two decades and written about by x-risk/LessWrong crowd, but to date continued to be dismissed as lunacy.
On one hand it's great to see it demonstrated in practice in concrete terms, on the other hand it's sad we have to basically make the mistakes ourselves, with live and close-to-dangerous systems, because we can't believe the obvious warnings.
- Avicebron 7d agoYou're likely not familiar with TEMPEST/EMSEC but this stuff was known about and discussed when designing air gaps going back to the 60s.. https://www.nsa.gov/portals/75/documents/news-features/declassified-documents/cryptologic-spectrum/tempest.pdf https://www.nsa.gov/portals/75/documents/news-features/decla... the x-risk/LessWrong crowd aren't adding anything to the conversation that seriously people haven't already considered.
- TeMPOraL 7d agoI didn't mean they first invented or described the methods, but that they've been consistently presenting a solid argument that these and other methods make airgapping and sandboxing AGI a dangerously flawed idea from the start. They are the serious people who considered this, and to date nobody listens.
- Avicebron 7d agoWell... they aren't the serious people... which is probably a good thing. You don't really want to know the serious people.
- demritocracy 7d agoWe need a Wildfire base like in the Andromeda Strain
- Muromec 6d agoLess wrong gives off a give of wanker doomsday cult in general. Like they just enjoy being scared or something, but are not actually serious about anything. Like the true crime YouTube series enjoyers. That's purely vibes based of course
- dist-epoch 6d agoYet they were much better at predicting Covid or AI than the "serious people" which dismissed these subjects until it smacked them in the face.