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Chrome attained its user base not by merit but by paying third party Windows installers to bundle it.

by RunSet 13d ago

wwiinn 13d ago
Forcing it down users’ throats at the world’s most popular website might have helped. Slightly.
cosmic_cheese 13d ago
Yep. Google has been incredibly aggressive in promoting Chrome over the years, including practices similar to those Microsoft gets lampooned for doing the same with Edge. The thing is that most of this is invisible to people who already live within Google’s bubble which is probably why they don’t get called out for it. The promotion is visible mostly to those of us who don’t, and it gets irritating.
izacus 13d ago
This is complete nonsense, it's a post hoc copium where you're trying to dishonestly rewrite history from your personal hatered. Chrome was better than competition pretty much all its lifetime and there's plenty of historic articles to prove it, no matter how much your emotions refuse to accept the history.
- Forgeties79 13d ago
  You can argue the merits of a product without personally attacking people.
  - izacus 13d ago
    The only personal insult to everyone here is such blatant lying and rewriting of history. And it's telling about the bottom barrel culture of the internet that you're angrier about having someone called out as a liar they are instead of actual lies. We were there and we didn't install Chrome via some made up toolbar installer, but because it was significantly better than what Mozilla and Internet Explorer offered.
    - Forgeties79 13d ago
      I am plenty calm, I do not know what gives you the impression I am angry. You, however, absolutely need to ease off the gas. You can’t talk to people like this here. You are being needlessly hostile and taking swipes at people. Treat people with respect or just don’t bother commenting. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- RunSet 11d ago
  You are incorrect. Chrome was widely bundled with third party installers for much of its history. https://www.osnews.com/story/25184/adobe-tricks-users-into-downloading-installing-google-chrome/ https://www.osnews.com/story/25184/adobe-tricks-users-into-d... https://www.labnol.org/software/chrome-with-adobe-reader/20123 https://www.labnol.org/software/chrome-with-adobe-reader/201... https://forum.filezilla-project.org/viewtopic.php?style=246&t=62153 https://forum.filezilla-project.org/viewtopic.php?style=246&... > nearly 10 % of the installers came with a third-party browser (e.g. Chrome) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167404818302797 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016740481...

Chrome attained its user base not by merit but by paying third party Windows installers to bundle it.

by RunSet 13d ago

Chrome attained its user base not by merit but by paying third party Windows installers to bundle it.

wwiinn 13d ago

Forcing it down users’ throats at the world’s most popular website might have helped. Slightly.

cosmic_cheese 13d ago

Yep. Google has been incredibly aggressive in promoting Chrome over the years, including practices similar to those Microsoft gets lampooned for doing the same with Edge. The thing is that most of this is invisible to people who already live within Google’s bubble which is probably why they don’t get called out for it. The promotion is visible mostly to those of us who don’t, and it gets irritating.

izacus 13d ago

This is complete nonsense, it's a post hoc copium where you're trying to dishonestly rewrite history from your personal hatered. Chrome was better than competition pretty much all its lifetime and there's plenty of historic articles to prove it, no matter how much your emotions refuse to accept the history.

Forgeties79 13d ago
You can argue the merits of a product without personally attacking people.
- izacus 13d ago
  The only personal insult to everyone here is such blatant lying and rewriting of history. And it's telling about the bottom barrel culture of the internet that you're angrier about having someone called out as a liar they are instead of actual lies. We were there and we didn't install Chrome via some made up toolbar installer, but because it was significantly better than what Mozilla and Internet Explorer offered.
  - Forgeties79 13d ago
    I am plenty calm, I do not know what gives you the impression I am angry. You, however, absolutely need to ease off the gas. You can’t talk to people like this here. You are being needlessly hostile and taking swipes at people. Treat people with respect or just don’t bother commenting. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
RunSet 11d ago
You are incorrect. Chrome was widely bundled with third party installers for much of its history. https://www.osnews.com/story/25184/adobe-tricks-users-into-downloading-installing-google-chrome/ https://www.osnews.com/story/25184/adobe-tricks-users-into-d... https://www.labnol.org/software/chrome-with-adobe-reader/20123 https://www.labnol.org/software/chrome-with-adobe-reader/201... https://forum.filezilla-project.org/viewtopic.php?style=246&t=62153 https://forum.filezilla-project.org/viewtopic.php?style=246&... > nearly 10 % of the installers came with a third-party browser (e.g. Chrome) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167404818302797 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016740481...