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What kind of vendor lock in are you talking about?? I use Mac and Linux and don’t feel at all locked in by Apple.

by brabel 8d ago

pacifika 8d ago
Try and export a few thousand Notes entries with images. Change how you like your day to day workflows in terms of window management Share a home made app with some friends without helping them install it Fix a bug in the vendors software by writing a patch
- ericmay 8d ago
  This doesn’t sound like vendor lock in to me, but user preferences.
- zuhsetaqi 8d ago
  > Try and export a few thousand Notes entries with images. Not a problem, I don’t use Apple Notes on my Mac. > Change how you like your day to day workflows in terms of window management Not a problem, I can just customize my hammerspoon config to behave differently > Share a home made app with some friends without helping them install it That depends more on what my friends are using than what I use. Me using Linux wouldn’t make it any easier if they are using Windows or macOS. > Fix a bug in the vendors software by writing a patch Not being able to fix a bug in an OS doesn’t lock me into that OS. And there are bugs in any Linux distribution that are way too complex to fix even if theoretically possible. So it doesn’t make any difference. A MacBook is pretty much locked to macOS even if it’s theoretically possible to boot a different OS but that doesn’t make me locked into macOS. I can sell my MacBook for a very reasonable price and buy whatever I want.
  - lostmsu 7d ago
    > And there are bugs in any Linux distribution that are way too complex to fix even if theoretically possible. So it doesn’t make any difference. It does now with LLMs
crossroadsguy 8d ago
Running an OS of your choice? Easily? That kind?
- deleted 7d ago
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- brabel 7d ago
  The OS is mostly invisible to me. Except for the desktop manager but both Mac and Linux have options for that, I just don’t even feel the need to change the defaults. If I really need Linux for whatever reason, Docker makes that extremely easy on my Mac. I really can’t understand what Linux gives you that you would feel a need to change your OS on Mac.
  - crossroadsguy 7d ago
    > The OS is mostly invisible to me I always thought I was missing something on the Macs. That must be it. Cheers.
  - bigyabai 7d ago
    > I really can’t understand what Linux gives you that you would feel a need to change your OS on Mac. - Native Docker support in-kernel - High-performance Vulkan drivers - CUDA support (macOS doesn't sign CUDA drivers for some reason) - Support for NTFS, FAT32 and other common filesystems without using FUSE - Better package management with versioned rollback - System updates that don't force breaking changes Those are just the ones that stop me from returning to macOS (I left after Catalina).
    - brabel 7d ago
      Interesting how people find reasons even when they make no sense. When did you experience problems with Docker on Mac?? I couldn’t care less it’s not native, it just works. About CUDA, mac has great GPUs , so much so that it’s a fad now to buy mini Macs to run LLMs. I don’t know about why you would use those file systems, am I missing something so great about them? Package management is awesome on Mac with brew, people are even using Brew on Linux lately since it’s one of the best. About system updates, I don’t remember being forced to do it, quite the opposite, my old Macs stopped being able to update after 8 years I believe. Which is fine with me, they get pretty obsolete after so long , and I believe Linux Wasabi works on old Macs if I need it ( but I don’t , I have a Dell with Linux that I could use if I wanted Linux, but I never need it and that laptop was just headache for me, which is why I choose to only use my Macs now ). But to each its own though.

What kind of vendor lock in are you talking about?? I use Mac and Linux and don’t feel at all locked in by Apple.

by brabel 8d ago

What kind of vendor lock in are you talking about?? I use Mac and Linux and don’t feel at all locked in by Apple.

Try and export a few thousand Notes entries with images. Change how you like your day to day workflows in terms of window management Share a home made app with some friends without helping them install it Fix a bug in the vendors software by writing a patch

ericmay 8d ago
This doesn’t sound like vendor lock in to me, but user preferences.
zuhsetaqi 8d ago
> Try and export a few thousand Notes entries with images. Not a problem, I don’t use Apple Notes on my Mac. > Change how you like your day to day workflows in terms of window management Not a problem, I can just customize my hammerspoon config to behave differently > Share a home made app with some friends without helping them install it That depends more on what my friends are using than what I use. Me using Linux wouldn’t make it any easier if they are using Windows or macOS. > Fix a bug in the vendors software by writing a patch Not being able to fix a bug in an OS doesn’t lock me into that OS. And there are bugs in any Linux distribution that are way too complex to fix even if theoretically possible. So it doesn’t make any difference. A MacBook is pretty much locked to macOS even if it’s theoretically possible to boot a different OS but that doesn’t make me locked into macOS. I can sell my MacBook for a very reasonable price and buy whatever I want.
- lostmsu 7d ago
  > And there are bugs in any Linux distribution that are way too complex to fix even if theoretically possible. So it doesn’t make any difference. It does now with LLMs

crossroadsguy 8d ago

Running an OS of your choice? Easily? That kind?

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brabel 7d ago
The OS is mostly invisible to me. Except for the desktop manager but both Mac and Linux have options for that, I just don’t even feel the need to change the defaults. If I really need Linux for whatever reason, Docker makes that extremely easy on my Mac. I really can’t understand what Linux gives you that you would feel a need to change your OS on Mac.
- crossroadsguy 7d ago
  > The OS is mostly invisible to me I always thought I was missing something on the Macs. That must be it. Cheers.
- bigyabai 7d ago
  > I really can’t understand what Linux gives you that you would feel a need to change your OS on Mac. - Native Docker support in-kernel - High-performance Vulkan drivers - CUDA support (macOS doesn't sign CUDA drivers for some reason) - Support for NTFS, FAT32 and other common filesystems without using FUSE - Better package management with versioned rollback - System updates that don't force breaking changes Those are just the ones that stop me from returning to macOS (I left after Catalina).
  - brabel 7d ago
    Interesting how people find reasons even when they make no sense. When did you experience problems with Docker on Mac?? I couldn’t care less it’s not native, it just works. About CUDA, mac has great GPUs , so much so that it’s a fad now to buy mini Macs to run LLMs. I don’t know about why you would use those file systems, am I missing something so great about them? Package management is awesome on Mac with brew, people are even using Brew on Linux lately since it’s one of the best. About system updates, I don’t remember being forced to do it, quite the opposite, my old Macs stopped being able to update after 8 years I believe. Which is fine with me, they get pretty obsolete after so long , and I believe Linux Wasabi works on old Macs if I need it ( but I don’t , I have a Dell with Linux that I could use if I wanted Linux, but I never need it and that laptop was just headache for me, which is why I choose to only use my Macs now ). But to each its own though.