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Can anyone actually share 1 - 3 examples where a hard fork of a living os project has actually succeeded ? If AMZN couldnt make their fire whatever it was call

Can anyone actually share 1 - 3 examples where a hard fork of a living os project has actually succeeded ? If AMZN couldnt make their fire whatever it was called fork of Android really grow, what chance has the community got ?

hex-m 14d ago
OwnCloud -> Nextcloud, OpenOffice -> LibreOffice, Elasicsearch -> OpenSearch, privacyIDEA -> eduMFA
- MiroslavPokorny 14d ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_OpenOffice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_OpenOffice Difficulties maintaining a sufficient number of contributors to keep the project viable have persisted for several years. In January 2015, the project reported a lack of active developers and code contributions.[49] There have been continual problems providing timely fixes to security vulnerabilities since 2015.[50][51][52][53] In September 2016, OpenOffice's project management committee chair Dennis Hamilton began a discussion of possibly discontinuing the project, after the Apache board had put them on monthly reporting due to the project's ongoing problems handling security issues.[54][55][56] Sounds like AOO is effectively dead, so this example is a fail to my challenge. OpenSearch & ElasticSearch both seem alive, as well as OC & NC. Neither https://github.com/privacyidea/privacyidea https://github.com/privacyidea/privacyidea or https://github.com/eduMFA/eduMFA https://github.com/eduMFA/eduMFA say either is a fork of the other. I think you failed to share 3, 2 seem to valid examples of my challenge but the other 2 are questionable.
  - Kubuxu 14d ago
    AOO became a thing after LibreOffice essentially won. Before that it was OpenOffice.org owned by oracle, forked into LibreOffice in 2010, with LibreOffice getting significant traction and Oracle throwing in the towel and donating OO to Apache Foundation in 2011.
  - AnssiH 14d ago
    LibreOffice was forked from OpenOffice.org in 2010, way before the difficulties of Apache OpenOffice (which didn't even exist back then).
  - notpushkin 14d ago
    > Sounds like AOO is effectively dead, so this example is a fail to my challenge. You didn’t ask for examples where both projects are alive!
- oAlbe 13d ago
  The amount of people that to this day still default to OpenOffice and have either never heard of LibreOffice or think it's the same as OpenOffice is crazy making though.
AnssiH 14d ago
The big ones that come to mind that were not already mentioned are MySQL => MariaDB, XFree86 => X.org.
microtonal 14d ago
386BSD -> FreeBSD NetBSD -> OpenBSD To some extent I would argue that Linux is a spiritual fork of Minix and Unix. But I think it’s also worth pointing out that these were in vastly different times where a single person or a small group of people could maintain an OS. An OS or browser is vastly more complex now.
- bunderbunder 14d ago
  Network effects were also nowhere near as strong as they are now. BSD is a killer example of that point, too. Using a BSD Unix got to be pretty difficult after Linux containers became hegemonic.
  - mh- 13d ago
    It was a bit challenging long before that. I ran webhosting on FreeBSD in the early 2000s - remember finding a tool you needed and hoping it was in ports?
- MiroslavPokorny 13d ago
  The point which i didnt not mention in my original question is that merging from the fork is a pain, which is why its just easier to jump onto and continuing development on the fork if it gains traction.
hollerith 13d ago
Samsung has had an Android fork for a long time. Safari started as a fork of KHTML, and Chrome started as a fork of (the open-source parts of) Safari.

hex-m 14d ago

OwnCloud -> Nextcloud, OpenOffice -> LibreOffice, Elasicsearch -> OpenSearch, privacyIDEA -> eduMFA

MiroslavPokorny 14d ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_OpenOffice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_OpenOffice Difficulties maintaining a sufficient number of contributors to keep the project viable have persisted for several years. In January 2015, the project reported a lack of active developers and code contributions.[49] There have been continual problems providing timely fixes to security vulnerabilities since 2015.[50][51][52][53] In September 2016, OpenOffice's project management committee chair Dennis Hamilton began a discussion of possibly discontinuing the project, after the Apache board had put them on monthly reporting due to the project's ongoing problems handling security issues.[54][55][56] Sounds like AOO is effectively dead, so this example is a fail to my challenge. OpenSearch & ElasticSearch both seem alive, as well as OC & NC. Neither https://github.com/privacyidea/privacyidea https://github.com/privacyidea/privacyidea or https://github.com/eduMFA/eduMFA https://github.com/eduMFA/eduMFA say either is a fork of the other. I think you failed to share 3, 2 seem to valid examples of my challenge but the other 2 are questionable.
- Kubuxu 14d ago
  AOO became a thing after LibreOffice essentially won. Before that it was OpenOffice.org owned by oracle, forked into LibreOffice in 2010, with LibreOffice getting significant traction and Oracle throwing in the towel and donating OO to Apache Foundation in 2011.
- AnssiH 14d ago
  LibreOffice was forked from OpenOffice.org in 2010, way before the difficulties of Apache OpenOffice (which didn't even exist back then).
- notpushkin 14d ago
  > Sounds like AOO is effectively dead, so this example is a fail to my challenge. You didn’t ask for examples where both projects are alive!
oAlbe 13d ago
The amount of people that to this day still default to OpenOffice and have either never heard of LibreOffice or think it's the same as OpenOffice is crazy making though.

AnssiH 14d ago

The big ones that come to mind that were not already mentioned are MySQL => MariaDB, XFree86 => X.org.

microtonal 14d ago

386BSD -> FreeBSD NetBSD -> OpenBSD To some extent I would argue that Linux is a spiritual fork of Minix and Unix. But I think it’s also worth pointing out that these were in vastly different times where a single person or a small group of people could maintain an OS. An OS or browser is vastly more complex now.

bunderbunder 14d ago
Network effects were also nowhere near as strong as they are now. BSD is a killer example of that point, too. Using a BSD Unix got to be pretty difficult after Linux containers became hegemonic.
- mh- 13d ago
  It was a bit challenging long before that. I ran webhosting on FreeBSD in the early 2000s - remember finding a tool you needed and hoping it was in ports?
MiroslavPokorny 13d ago
The point which i didnt not mention in my original question is that merging from the fork is a pain, which is why its just easier to jump onto and continuing development on the fork if it gains traction.

hollerith 13d ago

Samsung has had an Android fork for a long time. Safari started as a fork of KHTML, and Chrome started as a fork of (the open-source parts of) Safari.