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by jen20 7d ago

[Citation needed]

specked-citrus 7d ago
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/26/apple-confirms-iphone-to-get-usb-c-charging-to-comply-with-eu-law.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/26/apple-confirms-iphone-to-get...
- jen20 7d ago
  OK so why ship it in the US? The phones sold in the EU vs US already differ with respect to SIM card slots.
  - grim_io 7d ago
    Imagine the shit show of trying to win support of third parties when you can't even standardize on one connector for the same device.
  - onion2k 7d ago
    From a design and manufacturing point of view you want everything to be identical. Differences are expensive. From a profit maximization standpoint you want identical phones that can't easily be sold across market borders. Usually that's done in software (e.g. region locked video games), but that can usually be cracked, so a single design difference is the best solution. A great example is Nintendo's cartridge slot shapes that were different in each region despite the hardware being the same. Apple had lightning everywhere; they were forced to change to USB-C. Therefore they changed to USB-C everywhere. The market protection design change remains the sim slot.
    - tstrimple 6d ago
      We see this more locally in the US as well. There's something called the California effect. California emission standards were more strict than the rest of the country, but it didn't make sense to make California only vehicles and then vehicles for the rest of the country. So automakers built to the California standards and residents in all of the other states got to benefit from cleaner air as a result.
    - jen20 6d ago
      > From a design and manufacturing point of view you want everything to be identical. OK, so why not ship a SIM card slot in the US? eSIMs work perfectly well in Europe, the US and most of the rest of the world, "region locking" is clearly not the answer. Apple did not have "lightning everywhere" either - Macs and iPads got it much earlier.

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[Citation needed]

by jen20 7d ago

[Citation needed]

specked-citrus 7d ago
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/26/apple-confirms-iphone-to-get-usb-c-charging-to-comply-with-eu-law.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/26/apple-confirms-iphone-to-get...
- jen20 7d ago
  OK so why ship it in the US? The phones sold in the EU vs US already differ with respect to SIM card slots.
  - grim_io 7d ago
    Imagine the shit show of trying to win support of third parties when you can't even standardize on one connector for the same device.
  - onion2k 7d ago
    From a design and manufacturing point of view you want everything to be identical. Differences are expensive. From a profit maximization standpoint you want identical phones that can't easily be sold across market borders. Usually that's done in software (e.g. region locked video games), but that can usually be cracked, so a single design difference is the best solution. A great example is Nintendo's cartridge slot shapes that were different in each region despite the hardware being the same. Apple had lightning everywhere; they were forced to change to USB-C. Therefore they changed to USB-C everywhere. The market protection design change remains the sim slot.
    - tstrimple 6d ago
      We see this more locally in the US as well. There's something called the California effect. California emission standards were more strict than the rest of the country, but it didn't make sense to make California only vehicles and then vehicles for the rest of the country. So automakers built to the California standards and residents in all of the other states got to benefit from cleaner air as a result.
    - jen20 6d ago
      > From a design and manufacturing point of view you want everything to be identical. OK, so why not ship a SIM card slot in the US? eSIMs work perfectly well in Europe, the US and most of the rest of the world, "region locking" is clearly not the answer. Apple did not have "lightning everywhere" either - Macs and iPads got it much earlier.