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Meanwhile, I just setup codex for the first time (to try Astra) and it offered to load my Claude and Cursor conversations and claims to even do it in a way wher

by cjonas 8d ago

Meanwhile, I just setup codex for the first time (to try Astra) and it offered to load my Claude and Cursor conversations and claims to even do it in a way where it says in sync if you use both. The only reason to use Claude Code is the 20x usage of the 200$ plan is ridiculous value if you have the need for that volume.

oofbey 8d ago
“Offered to load conversations”. Let me translate that. “Can we please upload your data to our servers showing how you work with other AI agents?”
deaux 8d ago
The 20x plan offers the same amount of monthly usage per dollar as the $100 plan. It offers 2x monthly usage of the $100 plan. It's incredibly deceptively named, the "20x" is only about the 5-hour window.
- ido 7d ago
  How do they compare to OpenAI’s equivalently priced plans?
  - int_19h 7d ago
    You get a lot more inference on OpenAI plans dollar for dollar even before accounting for the regular resets that they do.
  - deaux 7d ago
    Until about one week ago, i.e. a few days after Astra release, the other comment was right; OpenAI plans gave a lot more usage than Anthropic. That had been true since pretty much the start. Now for the first time that's changed. OpenAI quotas have cratered, probably due to Astra-induced demand. Claude plans now offer more usage. Of course, this could flip back again in a few weeks, who knows. But right now Anthropic gives more usage, by virtue of OpenAI having slashed usage, and Anthropic having raised it a little, also likely because of additional capacity from people moving to Codex - hence also finally this AGENTS.md change. Anthropic's plans have always been pretty dynamic based on the demand they're seeing, whereas OpenAI's demand-induced changes are more abrupt and sharp (both upwards and now downwards too). You can tell that suddenly you get a bit more Fable usage, and especially higher tok/s, than pre-Astra. I wouldn't be surprised if Anthropic tweaks it almost daily, potentially automated. As a paying user I don't think either is better than the other really, just different. They both suck as you can get wildly different usage for the same $. If I'd bought a load of $200 subs for employees right after Astra launch I'd be pissed that now I'm getting 3x less usage than when I bought them. Because this extends to Sol too.

by cjonas 8d ago

oofbey 8d ago

“Offered to load conversations”. Let me translate that. “Can we please upload your data to our servers showing how you work with other AI agents?”

deaux 8d ago

The 20x plan offers the same amount of monthly usage per dollar as the $100 plan. It offers 2x monthly usage of the $100 plan. It's incredibly deceptively named, the "20x" is only about the 5-hour window.

ido 7d ago
How do they compare to OpenAI’s equivalently priced plans?
- int_19h 7d ago
  You get a lot more inference on OpenAI plans dollar for dollar even before accounting for the regular resets that they do.
- deaux 7d ago
  Until about one week ago, i.e. a few days after Astra release, the other comment was right; OpenAI plans gave a lot more usage than Anthropic. That had been true since pretty much the start. Now for the first time that's changed. OpenAI quotas have cratered, probably due to Astra-induced demand. Claude plans now offer more usage. Of course, this could flip back again in a few weeks, who knows. But right now Anthropic gives more usage, by virtue of OpenAI having slashed usage, and Anthropic having raised it a little, also likely because of additional capacity from people moving to Codex - hence also finally this AGENTS.md change. Anthropic's plans have always been pretty dynamic based on the demand they're seeing, whereas OpenAI's demand-induced changes are more abrupt and sharp (both upwards and now downwards too). You can tell that suddenly you get a bit more Fable usage, and especially higher tok/s, than pre-Astra. I wouldn't be surprised if Anthropic tweaks it almost daily, potentially automated. As a paying user I don't think either is better than the other really, just different. They both suck as you can get wildly different usage for the same $. If I'd bought a load of $200 subs for employees right after Astra launch I'd be pissed that now I'm getting 3x less usage than when I bought them. Because this extends to Sol too.