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> Many people bought Pixels due to this and it wasn't fulfilled. Did they though? Or is this just conjecture? Because, honestly, Pixels are not even available

> Many people bought Pixels due to this and it wasn't fulfilled. Did they though? Or is this just conjecture? Because, honestly, Pixels are not even available worldwide so a few AOSP enthusiasts dropping off and going to Graphene hardly seems concerning for the mighty G. AOSP reference was a tagline for a few nerds that still wanted the Nexus devices of yore, but it was clear from day one that Google wanted their Pixel phones to be their iPhones.

teekert 14d ago
I did
- cecexacjrgec 14d ago
  > a few AOSP enthusiasts dropping off > I did Precisely my point.
  - LoganDark 14d ago
    This is literally gaslighting; using someone's opinion as proof that nobody else holds it.
    - izacus 14d ago
      No, this isn't what gaslighting is or means.
      - LoganDark 14d ago
        Saying that holding a particular opinion makes you irrelevant is not gaslighting? It's not nice to respond to a frustrated developer by saying they don't exist. It feels comparable to saying someone's concerns are not real, which does amount to gaslighting to me.
        fluidcruft 14d ago
        Gaslighting is making a person question the validity of their own true memories.
        NetMageSCW 13d ago
        No one says graphene os doesn’t exist, or the developers don’t exist, just that their opinions don’t matter because they are a miniscule fraction of the market. 2% of active devices drives no decisions at Google.
    - exjejfjeifj 14d ago
      It quite literally isn’t.
grapheneos 13d ago
Android's official documented listed Pixels as the Android Open Source Project reference devices until the release of Android 16. It also promised 5-7 years of support from launch. Pixels are sold in 33 countries across North America, Europe, Asia and Oceania. A substantial portion of the Pixel userbase is using other operating systems. 400k to 600k active GrapheneOS users on Pixels is a significant amount based on how many Pixels are sold. It's only one of the alternate operating systems people are using. It's not only a few users as you're claiming.

teekert 14d ago

I did

cecexacjrgec 14d ago
> a few AOSP enthusiasts dropping off > I did Precisely my point.
- LoganDark 14d ago
  This is literally gaslighting; using someone's opinion as proof that nobody else holds it.
  - izacus 14d ago
    No, this isn't what gaslighting is or means.
    - LoganDark 14d ago
      Saying that holding a particular opinion makes you irrelevant is not gaslighting? It's not nice to respond to a frustrated developer by saying they don't exist. It feels comparable to saying someone's concerns are not real, which does amount to gaslighting to me.
      - fluidcruft 14d ago
        Gaslighting is making a person question the validity of their own true memories.
      - NetMageSCW 13d ago
        No one says graphene os doesn’t exist, or the developers don’t exist, just that their opinions don’t matter because they are a miniscule fraction of the market. 2% of active devices drives no decisions at Google.
  - exjejfjeifj 14d ago
    It quite literally isn’t.

grapheneos 13d ago

Android's official documented listed Pixels as the Android Open Source Project reference devices until the release of Android 16. It also promised 5-7 years of support from launch. Pixels are sold in 33 countries across North America, Europe, Asia and Oceania. A substantial portion of the Pixel userbase is using other operating systems. 400k to 600k active GrapheneOS users on Pixels is a significant amount based on how many Pixels are sold. It's only one of the alternate operating systems people are using. It's not only a few users as you're claiming.