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Argument from authority. Elaborate or nobody cares.
by elendilm 8d ago
Argument from authority. Elaborate or nobody cares.
- ajkjk 8d agoreally? conditional on them actually being neurosurgeon, I'd place a lot more stock on it than on a random headline based on their authority alone. So I, for one, care. Argument from authority is a bad thing specifically when it's used to make incorrect claims on the basis of authority. But authority as a concept still has plenty of merit.
- pixl97 8d ago[flagged]
- elendilm 8d agoLOL. Hilarious
- someguynamedq 8d agoAuthority is a heuristic for which claims are worthy of investigation, not determining their truth
- elendilm 8d agoAlways be suspicious of people who don't atleast give us even a single valid sentence to construct the chain of thought that would lead to their negation or assertion. An authority claim by virtue of itself is not worth investigating. Science doesn't work that way. Math doesn't work that way.
- ajkjk 6d agoyeah, basically what I said.
- elendilm 8d ago> Argument from authority is a bad thing specifically when it's used to make incorrect claims on the basis of authority. Exactly. Thank you. > I'd place a lot more stock on it than on a random headline based on their authority alone. So I, for one, care. I would leave you to contemplate the meaning of what you yourself wrote.
- ajkjk 8d agoDon't follow. But you omitted the 'conditional on' part so I'm not sure you did either?
- thin_carapace 8d agoregarding the brain, is there a reason your words should be trusted over those of a brain surgeon?
- elendilm 7d agoIf you are young, this might help you https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Appeal-to-Authority https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Appeal-... If you are old, I have nothing at my disposal. You are on your own. This is pretty basic. One learns this early on if he has actually built something. > regarding the brain, is there a reason your words should be trusted over those of a brain surgeon? You thought I had made a claim about the brain. That's interesting.
- thin_carapace 7d agoi have no idea whether the initial commentor is actually a neurosurgeon. applying good faith, he is a neurosurgeon, he saves lives and is deserving of respect. you're completely correct that an appeal to authority is fallacious in an argumentative context. you're also behaving like a dick to somebody who saves lives. don't care who is right or wrong here, made my comment to suggest that you're behaving disrespectfully. if I was unintentionally doing the same, I would appreciate being informed that the same point could have been made in a more respectful manner. although, if you're also at neurosurgeon calibre, then I am incorrect and this comment is redundant.
- elendilm 6d agoThe original comment was disrespectful to any freethinker and dismissed the author's work with a "no" providing zero substance. So he deserved the blunt callout and had it coming to him. I have nothing but respect for people who save lives. Many ordinary people on the street also save lives. If you are a neurosurgeon and save lives as a profession, all the more respect to you. I am not a neurosurgeon, and still have saved some lives and many have saved mine. Granted good faith, neither the neurosurgeon's arguments, nor mine, nor anyone else's for that matter should be taken on authority. Professional merit does not grant immunity from basic logic. We can respect an individual and still demand their arguments to conform to the same standard. And no, you were not disrespectful. You gave your reasons, you attempted to substantiate your arguments. That is genuine and something I deeply appreciate. Hope this clarifies.