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They can investigate all they want, they can even detain you briefly, but if you are a citizen and there’s no evidence of a crime then they have to let you in.
by iamnothere 8d ago
They can investigate all they want, they can even detain you briefly, but if you are a citizen and there’s no evidence of a crime then they have to let you in.
- CamperBob2 8d agoThey have more guns than you do, and these days, most of the judges are blindly and shamelessly on their side. They don't "have" to do jack.
- iamnothere 8d agoYou’re fearmongering. Despite what some may say, it’s not Nazi Germany. Rule of law still has sway. Find me caselaw where a “basic” phone was used as valid evidence. Or where the phone was already empty when someone began to approach the border.
- tokai 7d agoRule of Law was very strong in Nazi Germany. Everything that regime did was legal in Germany at the time.
- iamnothere 7d agoIf you really believe that the two are equivalent, I hope you’re taking action right now and not just posting on HN. Otherwise that would certainly speak poorly of your character.
- tombert 7d agoI mean they'll shoot protesters execution-style and retroactively declare that person a terrorist before they've even done any investigations. It's not Nazi Germany, but this administration has certainly demonstrated that they're not above inventing reasons to justify their actions later.
- iamnothere 7d agoDespite the problems, this stuff is still a rarity among most people. And most people understand that. It’s obviously getting worse, but that’s not a reason to give up all hope.
- tombert 7d agoI don't think I disagree with anything you said. I think cynicism is lazy.
- CamperBob2 7d agoRule of law still has sway. Get back to me once the Good and Pretti homicides in Minneapolis have been prosecuted.
- iamnothere 7d agoI said that it still has sway, not that it’s perfect. Your position basically amounts to “hide in bed and hope they don’t come for you”.
- CamperBob2 7d agoMy position is that what happened to them could happen to you or me. You don't seem concerned, though. So that's good. I guess.
- otterley 7d agoThe question isn’t whether something is merely possible. You could get struck by a moving ambulance tomorrow. It’s about how likely something is.
- CamperBob2 5d agoGetting more likely every year.
- matheusmoreira 7d agoAnd if you're not a citizen?
- iamnothere 7d agoThen this does not apply. Best to consult a lawyer