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The same goes for Spain, Belgium, Italy... beyond funny - EU advocating continental unity causing break-down even such already small countries as Belgium. Even

The same goes for Spain, Belgium, Italy... beyond funny - EU advocating continental unity causing break-down even such already small countries as Belgium. Even more funny - Von Rumpoy is from Belgium traveling continent advocating for unity, while his own small country is falling apart into pieces.

rmc 14y ago
I think it makes perfect sense. You have a pan-european state that deals with the big stuff (like human rights) and national ethnic groups for the little stuff. There has been a trend towards large countries breaking up into national/ethnic groupings for almost 200 years in Europe. The phrase "Balkanization" dates, not from the recent Yugoslav wars, but initially from 200 years ago when the Ottoman's were breaking up!
- PoliticsJunkie 14y ago
  No. This a feudal phenomenon right from the Middle Ages. The Papal Rome (EU) that deals with the big stuff and regionalization. That's why many historians and philosophers claim that times we are living in will be referred to as neo-feudal in the future: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-feudalism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-feudalism That's backwardation. Similarly, in the Middle Ages there was no concept of nation states. Sounds like EU agenda, doesn't it? Not to mention other similarities: 1% above the law elites, bankers, etc. and 99% of serfs. Definition of serf: born in debt and dies in debt. Religious wars (think crusades to Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan to enforce our Christian-born values), etc, etc. Whatever you touch in terms of social sciences in the modern societies of the West is feudal. Including things like rise of Asia and deterioration of the West. We're in the process of building of a neo-feudal society. Not fun. Just trying to fight against it every step it takes.
  - rmc 14y ago
    And yet, christian groups think the EU is a secular force trying to destroy the christian values they believe in with things like allowing women to work, allowing gays to exist, etc. So who's right? Or are you both extremists?
    - PoliticsJunkie 14y ago
      Church doesn't allow women to work and gays to exist? Wow... Neo feudalism is so much more than obsession with religion. Look, it may as well be our obsession with Liberal Democracy. Btw, socialism/communism is religion if you ask David Horowitz or just listen to Slavoj Zizek.

rmc 14y ago

I think it makes perfect sense. You have a pan-european state that deals with the big stuff (like human rights) and national ethnic groups for the little stuff. There has been a trend towards large countries breaking up into national/ethnic groupings for almost 200 years in Europe. The phrase "Balkanization" dates, not from the recent Yugoslav wars, but initially from 200 years ago when the Ottoman's were breaking up!

PoliticsJunkie 14y ago
No. This a feudal phenomenon right from the Middle Ages. The Papal Rome (EU) that deals with the big stuff and regionalization. That's why many historians and philosophers claim that times we are living in will be referred to as neo-feudal in the future: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-feudalism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-feudalism That's backwardation. Similarly, in the Middle Ages there was no concept of nation states. Sounds like EU agenda, doesn't it? Not to mention other similarities: 1% above the law elites, bankers, etc. and 99% of serfs. Definition of serf: born in debt and dies in debt. Religious wars (think crusades to Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan to enforce our Christian-born values), etc, etc. Whatever you touch in terms of social sciences in the modern societies of the West is feudal. Including things like rise of Asia and deterioration of the West. We're in the process of building of a neo-feudal society. Not fun. Just trying to fight against it every step it takes.
- rmc 14y ago
  And yet, christian groups think the EU is a secular force trying to destroy the christian values they believe in with things like allowing women to work, allowing gays to exist, etc. So who's right? Or are you both extremists?
  - PoliticsJunkie 14y ago
    Church doesn't allow women to work and gays to exist? Wow... Neo feudalism is so much more than obsession with religion. Look, it may as well be our obsession with Liberal Democracy. Btw, socialism/communism is religion if you ask David Horowitz or just listen to Slavoj Zizek.