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If you're arguing for abolishing copyright, I'm all for it. But as long as copyright exists, AI training should not get any exception to it. That creates an as
by JoshTriplett 8d ago
If you're arguing for abolishing copyright, I'm all for it.
But as long as copyright exists, AI training should not get any exception to it. That creates an asymmetry, where AI gets to rip off our work and use it to compete with us, while we don't get to do the same with proprietary works (e.g. software).
I don't want a world in which AI can rip off all of my Open Source code and not respect its license, but I can't take macOS and virtualize it and not care what Apple thinks of that.
- Windchaser 8d ago> If you're arguing for abolishing copyright, I'm all for it. But as long as copyright exists, AI training should not get any exception to it. AFAICT, the courts currently lean towards allowing AI to be trained even without author permission, and this doesn't violate copyright law. Copyright law says you can't sell unauthorized copies of copywritten works. Doesn't say you need to get author permission before using their works to train AI.
- JoshTriplett 8d agoYes, the courts are leaning towards creating the exception that I said should not exist, giving an advantage to AI companies over the humans that created the work they've trained on. That is not surprising, but it's still harmful.
- Windchaser 7d agoSo long as the AI company owns a copy of the copywritten work.. does training on it represent an "exception"? They're not reproducing the work for sale, no? So how does training violate CR law?
- JoshTriplett 7d agoPreparing a derivative work, and distributing that.